is about time these twats were embarrassed, trouble is the media don't mention it and no shame seems to come of it, just accepted, only time they make a ****ing big deal is if it involves luis.
I totally agree jenners! If Luis had been involved the kangaroo court would have been in full session and another 5 match ban would have been handed down!
The only ggod thing to come out of this saga is the fact that a club is prepared to consider a reference to CAS. This is the first time that a club has publically considered stepping out of line. Next time it will be a bigger club, probably with deeper pockets and a stronger case. It will be interesting to see how the FA react. Will they slam the door shut again with as much authority as they can mention or will they announce a root and branch review of their systems? Either way they can't maintain the status quo.
Because that's the language used in the appeals process to justify challenging a decision made by ref. Can't be "we think he's harsh" it's got to be "he's obviously wrong".
I wonder how much of a legal case a player or club has in this type of dispute. I've no idea how it works, but I assume that when a club contracts into playing in the football league or PL, they must agree to abide by the laws of the governing body and accept its rulings (notwithstanding the right to appeal a decision). Whether or not Carroll meant to twat Chico can only be a matter of opinion, so the FA's opinion will hold. As for Webb making a mistake well, regardless of what we think of him, all refs make mistakes and the club would have to show how this particular one was any more important than a million others. The FA are always going to back their officials. I find it hard to see quite what legal case could be made here. It was a bit different in the Suarez "racism" case because that is a serious offence and covered by the law of the land. As for the CAS, I thought that body was really only concerned with larger issues and not petty disputes of opinion like this. If they got involved in field of play decisions they'd never get home.
It's a good experiment since we aren't involved for once, let's see if the refs try to have revenge on West Ham for daring to question their perfection
It's a good experiment since we aren't involved for once, let's see if the refs try to have revenge on West Ham for daring to question their perfection
could all be part of a bigger conspiracy so hammers get relegated and spuds get their new stadium obviously joking, but is that a done deal now hammers get Olympic stadium, or can it still go elsewhere?
I believe that CAS is the final appeal court in all of these sporting issues. The agreement between the clubs and the FA to be bound by the rules of the FA includes a ban on referring any decision emanating from the FA to any other legal body - hence LFC could not have sued the FA in the High Court. Like you, I doubt that there was any true strength in WHU's position for the very reason you quote. However, the public declaration that they were even considering a reference to CAS will give other clubs who are in conflict with the FA a new direction of travel to consider. In other circumstances I can well envisage the FA not being able to keep issues 'in-house'. At the CAS, the FA will not have any more power than the club opposing them to influence a decision (and if money to fund legal represention is power then the FA may be at a disadvantage ). Either way a CAS reference would appear to now be closer.
I don't mean to be flippant but was it also a better path to take in support of a 'wronged' player than wearing t-shirts?
This is ABSOLUTELY the point. You stand in front of the FA and you're judged on the balance of probabilities. You're not even allowed the assumption of innocence - which should still be the standard in civil as well as criminal cases when you are accused and the prosecuting agency is also the judge and jury. Yet you then have to prove beyond reasonable doubt that the prosecution/decision was flawed! That just ****ing stinks.
