Maybe because it is easier to get to get permissions and fundings for stadiums for vanity projects like the Olympics especially when the taxpayer is funding them. Going by our crowds of those times we didn't need a new stadium. We could have moved in with FC or Rovers. The same could be said about a lot of clubs. Presumably in your world nothing changes and we should accept the status quo.
So everyone who buys a pass at a London PL stadium is a bona fide fan? Goodness me, that'll be why all those tourists can never get in to see any games.
Yes, the only genuine fans are Hull City ones. The only reasons other teams get more support at home and have more travelling away is that their fans all have more money being in well paid employment everywhere.
They'll no doubt have some tourists at their games, but most of the 52,000 pass holders had to be either existing pass-holders (who were each allowed to sign up two new pass-holders), or they had to already be on the waiting list.
Almost ten years ago West Ham tried to convince the Olympic Committee to agree to design the stadium with football in mind, with a fixed arrangement for them to take over immediately after the games, they even offered to contribute £100m towards the build cost. The meeting didn't go well, West Ham claim they were arrogant and dismissive of the need for the stadium to be used for anything other than athletics and it's been rather a cock-up since.
Impossible to say what they would have charged. Most of their concessions still pay more than ours will under the new scheme anyway.
Of course their concessions will pay more than ours. When is anything in London less than it is in Hull? It isn't impossible to figure out that they would have bern more than ours. The point is, which you seem to be missing, is that a lot of their fans will find they are paying less than they did last season to sit in a new stadium whils a lot of our fans will be paying more than they did last season to sit in the same stadium. Still we have geniuses in charge who, in an act of dummy spitting, increased prices by 35% before knowing which division we would be in. I can't think of anywhere else that has happened. Can you?
You really do need to move on and and accept the so-called ugly face of consumerism, even if that includes tourist football, which I see no problem with. There is a distinctly unpleasant tone to your consistently elitist posts about new supporters being unwelcome at football clubs. If it were left to you and your "proper" old-school die-hards, football really would die an horrible and ugly death at the turnstiles.
Nothing elitist about it. New supporters are welcome. The ones that aren't are those who arrive and expect everyone who has been going for years should adopt to their ideas of what watching a football match is about. Fit in or **** off.
You are welcome as long as you do exactly as I say because I was here first and I'm right. That sounds pretty elitist to be fair.
It's always been a closed shop that takes in three new members and bins three every season. Is that a closed shop or one constantly offering an opportunity to evolve? I am stunned how the huge positives of this season still do not dent this negative thinking.
Agree completely, only 65% of the teams from the 2010/11 season remain in the Premier League, in the five years since then 13 different clubs have gone up 8 of which are still up there, seems pretty open to me.
No. Just don't expect that others should adopt to your ways. I wouldn't go to Wimbledon and expect that because I wanted to stand and shout that others should do the same. No doubt you and Fez are the types who would move next door to a pub or club and then demand they shut early and have no music. Or go live in the country and then start complaining about the noise animals make and demanding that the church bells which have rung out for centuries be silenced?
Surely even you realise that your analogy is bollocks given that you'd be breaking the stadium rules and so would be kicked out anyway? Pretty sure there isn't a rule at the KC that you have to stand and sing. I agree with you that nobody new should turn up and expect others to follow their rules, the same way those that are already there shouldn't be arrogant enough to think their way is the only way. Its about mutual respect, something which is sadly overlooked by both types of fans.
Stop being a fool with your daft assumptions and stupid arguments; I bought a pub, I didn't move next door to one and yes, I had one of those no noise fools near me - he moved. You buy a ticket for a seat, just as those around you buy tickets for seats, live with it. A bit of standing due to excitement is part and parcel, but there are plenty who get excited over **** all - they must be "proper" supporters, I suppose.
Do you ever wonder what it would be like to see many colours and shades like everyone else instead of everything being black and white? There isn't a rule you should stand and sing. Neither is there anything which suggests that others should not do what they have been doing for decades and should stop doing it because some others have decided to honour them with their presence. The trouble is that we have a lot who chose to,sit in area where you would expect a more boisterous type of fan and then wanted everyone to adapt to their ways. A case in point is .East Stand. We had the fans who used to go in Kempton wanting to be down the side (I think Adam Pearson envisaged the North ?Stand being the Kop type singing area). However a lot of the sort of the people who preferred the old West Stand at BP types decided they wanted to be down the side as well and didn't fancy being in West Upper or paying West Lower prices. This meant that two different types of fans were mingled together which resulted in tensions, disagreements and a consequent diminishing of atmosphere. We don't have a lot of singing types to start with and this made it worse. I remember a poster on here, and this was in the East Stand, described as the place where the most fervent City fans went, being tapped on the shoulder and being told to stop shouting so loudly as the bloke behind him's daughter was trying to follow what Man Utd were doing on her phone and couldn't hear because he was making so much noise.
Yes, look at all those supporters elsewhere getting it all wrong. Singing before the game, like at Anfield the other night, still singing whilst the team had done nothing to deserve it as they hadn't even ****ing scored. Stood up at both ends all during the game. Which was the better atmosphere? Which do you think the manager and team would prefer? Fervent fans making a noise or numbties who think that a bit of standing is acceptable now and again, but everyone should remain rooted to their seats most of the time? I have often read calls for the fans to get behind the team. I have never read any calls for fans to remain quite most of the game so the players can concentrate better on the task at hand.
Anfield's utterly ****e, it's worse than the KC, they might be able to generate some noise for an individual big game, but outside of that it's ****ing terrible there.
