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Wenger looking to bring in more players

Discussion in 'Arsenal' started by cjuliennech1, Jul 25, 2012.

  1. TheBear

    TheBear Well-Known Member

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    "As announced earlier this year I had a meeting with the Boss and Mr. Gazidis after the season. This was a meeting about the club’s future strategy and their policy. Financial terms or a contract have not been discussed, since that is not my priority at all.

    "I personally have had a great season but my goal has been to win trophies with the team and to bring the club back to its glory days.

    "Out of my huge respect for Mr. Wenger, the players and the fans I don’t want to go into any details, but unfortunately in this meeting it has again become clear to me that we in many aspects disagree on the way Arsenal FC should move forward.

    "I’ve thought long and hard about it, but I have decided not to extend my contract. You guys, the fans, have of course the right to disagree with my view and decision and I will always respect your opinions. "

    There's nothing in this statement that makes me think he is in the wrong. All top players want to win trophies.
    I think like the rest of us he's sick of the board not pushing for trophies with the constant selling of our best players.
     
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  2. Samurai

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    That's what he WANTS you to think. That statement was clearly written by a team of lawyers. It's motivated by money and nothing else, and everyone knows it.
     
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  3. TheBear

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    Meh... it's just easier for us to think like that.

    Brush it off and say 'he left for the money'. But the truth is we've been a 'selling club' for the last 7-8 years. You cant win trophies if you dont keep your best players.
     
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  4. ToledoTrumpton

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    meh, this selling club thing is a bit of a red herring if you ask me. Any club in England, apart from Man City or Chelsea, would be a selling club if they produced players like we do. Fact is, they don't. We keep producing world-class players we don't need.

    I keep looking at our team and thinking we are better off without RvP, particularly in games against a packed defence.

    Everybody is down because Man City spent large and won, but they nearly didn't and they only won from what even United fans think was their worst team in years, and us having had the worst pre-season ever. Everybody is picking manchester 1 and 2 and predicting Chelsea will pass us, but most of the players we lost were lightweights.

    Nasri and RvP, by leaving, showed me what was wrong with Arsenal over the last 7 years. We need the people with courage and self belief, to say "I will lead Arsenal to a trophy", not people who say "I want to go somewhere where the players there will carry me to a trophy."

    If RvP thinks he is going to be considered any greater, because he joined a club that is buying players to win, he is completely deluded. He should talk to Beckham, nobody gives him credit for playing on the La Liga winning Real Madrid team. No one cares that Nasri won with Man City as a supporting actor and no one will care if RvP joins City, even if they win it.
     
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  5. gent

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    I didn't say he wants to leave for money. I said he wants to leave to a club where it's dead simple to win a trophy. I.e. even without him. He's not interested in working for a trophy or being an instrumental part of winning it.
     
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  6. enigma

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    One of the things that annoys me most about all this is the fact that nasri, fabregas, clichy and RVP are part of the reason that we have never won a trophy in there era. I wish players would take on some responsibility, if the club were to buy big, then the likes of RVP and fabresgas would never have got into the team and become the players they are. You can't have it both ways, when viera left, wenger could have gone out and bought a central midfielder who was 23 -24 years old, and cost 20 million, and fabregas would never have gotten into the team.

    I know its a team game and one person can't win a trophy on his own, but that's 4 players, basically half an outfield team, so many of these players went missing in big games that cost us trophies, yet you would think it is somehow our fault, or the boards fault that nasri was nonexistent in the CC final in 2011, that's just one example, so it is very annoying, this blame culture that appears to have developed amongst our players.

    Do people really believe that if man city offered those players the exact same wage that arsenal were offering that they would still leave? I'm not convinced, I actually think I would have a bit more respect for one of these player if they just came out and said, I came here for the money, can you blame me.
     
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  7. EmirAleks

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    Every time a player leaves Arsenal "not for the money" he strangely end up with a much higher salary. I think it is just a weird coincidence. No?
     
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  8. PINKIE

    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    Absolutely spot on fella <ok>

    RVP says he wants to return Arsenal to their glory days, by doing what ? leaving us ?

    Call me old fashioned, but that's a ****ing strange way to bring back the glory days.
     
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  9. Mantis

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    Agreed <ok> and welcome back to not606.
     
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  10. goonercymraeg

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    Stop ****ing creeping.You said he was a **** when he was away <grr>
     
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  11. mas2204

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    Saved me a lot of typing., this did.
     
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  12. Mantis

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    No sources I see? <whistle>
     
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  13. Cb

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    Has anyone seen M'vila play in detail because I don't see what so special about him when we have song coquelin and diaby.
     
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  14. PINKIE

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    <laugh>
     
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    Enigma - what a load of drivel......
     
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  16. enigma

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    A well agued piece you have constructed here, you blew me out of the water with this augment, your point is so well constructed and supports your point in a manner I could only dream of being able to achieve. Take a bow son, your my new hero.
     
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  17. TheBear

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    Yeah actually I have watched a fair amount of his performances for Rennes.

    He has a bit of everything. Big, strong, good in the Air and is technically superb. He's a FAR greater talent than the likes of Coquelin. IMO
     
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  18. PINKIE

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    I thought he made a very pertinent point and articluated it very well.
     
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  19. Bergkamp a Dutch master

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    anyone who wishes we never had Fabregas, Nasri and co..... deserves the derision.
     
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  20. PINKIE

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    He didn't say that he'd wished we'd never had Fabregas, Nasri etc.
    He said that if Wenger had gone out and bought big names, then these players would never have been given a chance at Arsenal.

    Senility well and truly settled in it seems <whistle>
     
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