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Wenger has 'considerable' funds / Philosophical musings on the fate of humanity

Discussion in 'Arsenal' started by PINKIE, Dec 13, 2012.

  1. gent

    gent Well-Known Member

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    How is transmission of energy (generated elsewhere) exactly what you are talking about? Here is what you said:

    "There is a theory that naturally occurring electricity in the ionsphere can be harnessed and transmitted wirelessly to any suitable antenna. A controllable source of free energy."
    "His free energy tower, which basically took freely available charged particles from the ionosphere and transmitted them via wireless conductors"

    Poor form on not admitting you (intentionally?) conveyed false information.
     
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  2. PINKIE

    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    Re: My last comment here

    Here's the video again, watch the part especially from 0:50


    [video=youtube;jxWsc7y1olg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxWsc7y1olg[/video]
     
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  3. PINKIE

    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    You seem to be getting bogged down in the terminology. I'm simply saying that our planet is full of FREE energy and various people have claimed to have found ways to tap it and utilise it.

    I presume you are familiar with the term 'zero point energy' ?

    Here's another video that explains these ideas and methods of utilising it:

    [video=youtube;XHAg25Ndk_k]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHAg25Ndk_k[/video]
     
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  4. gent

    gent Well-Known Member

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    I will repeat this again Transmitting <doesn't equal> producing. Your comments very obviously referred to production/generation earlier on in the thread and I corrected you that the ionosphere was only meant to be used as a conductor (say replacing copper lines).


    As for that incredibly ignorant video:
    Here's a transcript from 0:50 "through his discovery of producing free wireless electricity" -- no such discovery has ever been made.

    Heck the only experiments ever conducted was to use the antenna to radiate enormous amounts of energy (produced through conventional means) to illuminate a light bulb wirelessly!

    Even today wireless transmission of energy is extremely inefficient. Remember a few years back a NASA scientist was hopeful they could get to "only" 60% loss over 100KM. Whereas through conventional power lines losses are only 3% over 1000KM.

    This technology didn't pick up purely because it's not practical.


    This was visionary work by Tesla, but he has plenty of real practical inventions he should be cherished about. The only reason this gets so much attention is because it has that "future" element to it. But the technology for wireless transmission was never feasible to be deployed commercially.
     
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    True, but Tesla was claiming that he was transmitting energy that already existed and was freely available, not energy that he was producing.
     
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  6. gent

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    transcript from that video: "I believe that this tower was just a hoax to make people think it was giving them power, when in actuality the device that was installed at their home, was getting power from the air, right there. The investors probably figured out that eventually the customers would understand this." <doh><laugh>

    PISKIE you are ****ing killing me with these videos. <laugh>

    **** this guy should write this up and publish it to a scientific journal... oh wait, the "guv'ment' and the Capitalists will kill him and discredit his work and visionary youtube videos. Best he keep making videos on the net anonymously. :bandit:
     
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  7. gent

    gent Well-Known Member

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    I'm talking about the actual experiments he conducted with the transmission of conventional energy to light a ****ing lightbulb wirelessly. What he 'claimed' personally to goonercymraeg when they were out golfing has no scientific relevance.
     
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    Arrogance beyond belief <doh>

    Good day to you Sir, I'll leave you to wallow in your own entrenched world view <ok>
     
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  9. gent

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    How am I arrogant for letting you know the actual scientific merit of the many false statements you've made in here?

    Show me just one reputable source that says the Tesla Tower was transmitting energy that was "freely available", instead of what is common knowledge that it was an ambitious project to transmit electricity wirelessly? Just one. Not some youtube video of a guy telling us his opinion of what he thinks actually happened, a reliable source.


    Here's a letter from the man himself.
    "Towards the close of 1898 a systematic research, carried on for a number of years with the object of perfecting a method of transmission of electrical energy through the natural medium, led me to recognize three important necessities: First, to develop a transmitter of great power; second, to perfect means for individualizing and isolating the energy transmitted; and, third, to ascertain the laws of propagation of currents through the earth and the atmosphere. "
    http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/1904-03-05.htm

    Where's he talking about anything BUT transmitting electricity not through conventional means but "natural mediums" (air). I said it a few posts back. Stop digging a hole and admit you spewed **** you don't fully understand just to make a cheap point of boo boo capitalism evil.



    Entrenched world view? Not every view has equal merit. You are talking about science and engineering here, "opinion" and speculation don't deserve that kind of respect.
     
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  10. goonercymraeg

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    Can you two stupid ****s knock it on the head now please.You're even starting to piss me off.Just agree to disagree for ****'s sake
     
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  11. goonercymraeg

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    I thought you'd ****ed off to join your girlfriend Jamrag and her bitches <inserttwofacedcuntandhypocritesmiley>
     
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  12. PINKIE

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    Straight from the Horse's mouth:


    In Tesla's article 'The Problem of increasing Human Energy' Tesla describes his life work, his dream to build a machine that would produce clean and free energy and distribute it all over the world.

    So How does it work?

    Get yourself a copy of Tesla's 'rare notes'. Also freely available on the internet. These show the 5 parts that are described in Tesla's article of 1900 'The problem of increasing human energy' - A 3 coil high voltage generator 'not connected to anything else', a plasma-bridge from the HV-end of the generator to a secondary system that can vibrate on any frequency. This secondary system is brought into resonance by an AM modulated signal from the first circuit (as in a giant crystal receiver). This secondary system is the 'dynamo of special design' mentioned in the 1900 article, and this is where the 'over-unity' energy comes from.

    Tesla's Wardenclyffe tower was designed to transmit this 'free' energy wirelessly and that's why, when JP Morgan learned that it couldn't be metered to make money he decided to, literally and metaphorically - Pull the plug.

     
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  13. Not PC enough

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    I thought i was on a football, more specifically Arsenal forum , why isnt this theoretical energy source discussion on the GC board. ?
     
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  14. PINKIE

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    Blame Toledo <laugh>

    Besides, if it was on GC it would be full of amputee porn and other such 'special interest' topics
     
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  15. Not PC enough

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    to be fair I wouldnt want to include the usual population of the GC in any theoretical musings.

    It seems to be populated my a human subclass.
     
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  16. gent

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    No it wasn't. This is not in contention neither in historic or scientific circles. You are going around in circles, and you are again demonstrating a laughably insufficient knowledge of physics. All the Wardeclyffe tower was ever used for was to transmit energy produced through conventional means.

    You are mixing his practical scientific work on wireless transmission of energy with his other unrelated essays on theoretical physics which were duly discredited. He stuck with a 19th century concept of a pervasive ether that transmits electrical energy, and he disagreed that atoms were composed of subatomic particles, that there was no such thing as electrons creating electric charges (that electrons had nothing to do with electricity). All of this knowledge of the sub-atomic world can now be proven in a high school physics lab, it has been proven in various fields independently, and the various inventions of the modern world would be impossible without this common knowledge (which Tesla had rejected as false early on).

    You are mixing his (now proven) incorrect views on theoretical physics with his practical engineering work on transmission of energy.
     
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    gent Well-Known Member

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    Oh yeah, and part of his views was that atoms were immutable and couldn't be split in any way, another 19th century concept. We know how that went as well.


    Innovative engineer and practical scientist. Piss-poor theoretical physicist, which is why he is never referred to as such. (not because of some conspiracy to discredit him.)
     
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    Is there a problem with members of not606 posting on other forums then or are you just trying to switch attention from the fact that you are a hypocritical **** who isn't fit to moderate this forum? FFS, even Arsenal87 would be better suited to the job than you.
     
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  19. goonercymraeg

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    Are you familiar with the phrase."The pot calling the kettle black" ?
     
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    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    This thread is going around in circles now . . .

    any other takers ?
     
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