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Wenger Brigade, what were you saying?

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  1. Arsenal87

    Arsenal87 Well-Known Member

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    Guardiola, he hasn't signed a contract with Barca yet, he will see it as a big big challenge to turn things at Arsenal around, plus the club philosophy is in line with his philosophy of how a team should play, so I think it's very realistic to get him.
     
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  2. Sign Da Ting

    Sign Da Ting Well-Known Member

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    Exactly what I said in the match thread, but some glory hunting manure muppet tried to suggest he'd never touch Arsenal. I'm sure Pep is up for a challenge.
     
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  3. AdamBanana20

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    Get an english manager.
     
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  4. Arsenal87

    Arsenal87 Well-Known Member

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    We didn't have the same resources as we do now, we are the third richest club according to Forbes, we sell out our 60,000 seater every week, we are bringing in record amounts of turn over and profits, we have money to spend, but our manager chooses not to based on some self sustaining policy which is clearly not working out and setting us backwards, so you can't compare the two situations.
     
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  5. english~players~dont~dive

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    Geez, lets not fear the future, Arsenal can exist without Wenger.

    BUT

    Where is the direction of the football club, why now to Peter Hill-Wood and Gazidis now hide and pop up with crap like "city are jealous of our position"

    Where is Silent Stan? That guy came in to do nothing back Wenger and the boards plans to minimise spend and max profits. If we were to simply replace Wenger we'd not fair any better.

    Arsenal is not an ambitious Football Club, Silent Stan couldn't give one as long his shares retain their value. Sadly this has been done on the backs of fans hard earned cash.
     
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    it is becoming increasingly obvious that wenger cannot compete financially with the big clubs , in fact the experts even touched on this on sky 2 weeks ago saying the cost of the stadium has been bleeding the club dry for several years -
    if he had the money he surely would have used it by now as wenger more than anybody wants to win silverware
    --------- it really isnt rocket science

    how do you expect wenger and arsenal to compete with the really big clubs when his hands are tied ?
     
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    Sign Da Ting Well-Known Member

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    If this is the case... why haven't Arsenal themselves made it clear? Why haven't they been transparent? If this is the case, why hold on to mediocre players and bring in even more average ones with the small budget we apparently have? I'm not expecting us to compete financially with Chelsea, Man City etc. but I can't accept how bad we are playing. A lack of finance is no excuse for tactical ineptitude.
     
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    arsenal , wenger , or the board are under no oblication to tell anybody there financial situation and why should they as it is nobody else"s buisness ,

    end of the day whatever you may think of wenger he is nobodys fool and knows he needs to spend big money to compete with the big boys , it just seems impossible to believe that after 7 yrs winning nothing he would not spend it if he actually had it -

    as for a lack of tactical apptitude , no manager gets it right every time , wenger and pat rice probally make no more mistakes than anybody else at that level -

    lets have it right if wenger"s hands have been tied financially for the last few yrs he is working wonders just to get us into 4th place every year -
     
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    Because fans like me help fund the club. You know, buying tickets to the games, merchandise etc. If more than half of the supporters stopped going to home games, I'm sure they'd take notice. To act is if it is none of our business is dismissive.

    Well it's either that or he's just being stubborn with his philosophy. Unfortunately, us mere mortals are left to second guess since we're being treated like muppets.

    Yet that tactical ineptitude have left us trophyless for seven years. Explain that if other clubs at our level haven't been trophyless for that long.
    Again, if we were just told he can't spend money then so be it. But the fact he continues to spend money on such crap players and holds on to the mediocre ones is no excuse. David Moyes is in a similar situation and he has done well for Everton considering his circumstance. Over the years, Wenger has spent money on so many ****e players that I can't accept lack of funds as an excuse.
     
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  10. Viva Vela

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    Nice article.

    Just what people hope to read after a defeat c
     
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    why should arsenal , wenger , or the board tell anybody and everybody every little detail of there financial situation , other clubs dont do it why should arsenal , like every other club they are under no oblication to do so and why should they be -
    ---- for me it has been obvious for years that his hands have been tied -

    as for tactical ineptitude , as i said himself and pat rice probally make no more errors than anybody else if the truth was actually known ,

    as for buying crap players
    --- how do you expect him to buy worldclass players when he does not have the financial muscle to compete with the likes of man u , city , chelsea , etc -

    as for david moyes ------- i dont see everton finish in the top 4 every year and competing in the CL as we do -
     
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    This is utter bollox friend and I can't be bothered to explain why, there are dozens of threads on this board detailing the issues with Wenger ALL valid <ok>
     
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    **** me...get to point mate...stop beating round the bush <laugh>
     
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  14. Pete Doherty

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    This thread is highly entertaining.

    Arsenal don't do cup matches in February, do they?

    Lolz.
     
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    dont agree with you bud --

    wenger hasnt got a bottomless pot to spend on worldclass superstars as mam u , man city , chelsea have hence why we cant compete with them until he does get the same financial muscle as them he never will be able to compete with them -

    ------ it really isnt rocket science --

    by the way chelsea have got a bottomless pit of money and we are still doing better than them in the prem -
    --------testament tp the brilliant job that wenger is doing with such limited spending power --
     
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    <ok>Sometimes it takes someone who's sees the situation outside of the melee to simply state how it is.
     
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  17. theHotHead

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    Ok, I am going to list a load of things that, had the correct decisions been made, we wouldn't be where we are now.

    1)Tactics - Wenger never changes tactics, even when the tactics are clearly not working.
    2) Decisions - Wenger makes too many bizarre decisions ,putting square pegs ikn round holes far too often.
    3) He decided to stick to developing kids most of whom are not good enough. The ones that are good enouigh leave.
    4) There are plenty of developed players that easily cost what we could afford but Wenger won't buy because it "prevents kid's development".
    5) Wenger refused to sort out our goalkeeping problem after Lehmann.
    6) Wenger refused to sort out our CB problem when Campbell left.
    7) Wenger has put too much faith in mediocre players, the likes of Bendtner, Walcott, Denilson, Diaby, etc, players who offer very little.
    8) Our wage bill was third highest until City came along, now it is 5th, but our squad is dreadful.
    9) We keep making the same mistakes, game after game, with no sign of remedy, there seems to be no motivation or passion.
    10) We have never been able to match the top spenders but we were able to match them on the pitch !
     
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  18. PINKIE

    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    <laugh><ok>
     
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  19. Pete Doherty

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    You've got no decent wingers.

    You've got no world class play maker.

    You've got an average goalkeeper and centre backs.

    You've got one good striker.

    You've got a long way to go before you're a respectable force again.
     
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  20. martial artist

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    your long list is not really saying anything of substance that stands up to close inspection bud -

    its very easy to cherry pick every minute mistake that wenger may or maynot have made when the results are not going our way - dont you think other managers make decisions that the fans cant quite fathom -

    the bottom line is until arsenal dont have anywhere near the same financial clout as the big boys and they are never going to be able to pay 30 million for this player and 30 million for that player as man u , man city , chelsea have done and are able too and have squads knee deep in worldclass superstars -

    ---- until arsenal do have that financial clout they are never going to compete on the same level as the big boys -
    ---- better get used to it mate -- i have -
     
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