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Superman wears Grant Holt pyjamas in bed said:
i think most leeds fans are very astute but i don't like the fact that one or two are hoping we get relegated because we keep taking their players. it's not our fault! they need to look closer to home as to the reason their top players all want to join us and others. nothing against simon here - i understand he was jesting a little, but i do find it slightly sad that some feel that we should be the ones who get retribution for their own clubs failings.

its similar, i suppose, to some norwich fans who are desperately hoping villa fail. why? just cos they took our ex-manager?

grow up <ok>
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I agree with you completely, unfortunately there's clearly a part of me refusing to grow up in that regard. For me personally it's not blaming the wrong people, I know exactly who is to blame. It always annoys me when people claim Snoddy went for the money (despite the fact we offered him your highest wage), they're clearly just in denial about the state of their own club. You shouldn't blame a player for wanting to leave, you should ask why they want to leave. Although if I'm on twitter and see "#feederclub" one more time or any more "funny" mock ups of Norwich badges on Leeds kits etc. I'll start getting a bit more rational in my bitterness. <laugh>

Norfolkbhoy said:
Fair point although if you had the better team you probably would have finished above us in L1? Maybe we had a bit more depth and cutting edge than you - I think that in both L1 and the Championship you need goal scorers and Holt/Martin were brilliant for us in L1 and your top striker was sold which left us on a high going up and you not so much. I think it is fair to say that most of the Norwich fans were pleasantly surprised by how well we did in the championship and have done subsequently and I guess with a couple of breaks the other way it could easily have been Leeds.

In terms of personnel you probably had a better midfield (which we have now cherry-picked) but sadly for you our keeper and forward line were vastly superior. I don't think that either defence was great in the Champ but the fact that we got promoted suggests that ours was better. We also had a good manager and supportive board which always helps.

If your takeover ever happens then maybe you will be in the market for some better players to allow you to compete for promotion but if it were imminent then surely Snodgrass would consider staying and leading you up although I can understand his desire for PL football to further his career.
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With regards to the takeovers relation to the move, LUST have it that:

1) Bates is the one holding up the deal.
2) Bates sanctioned the Snodgrass sale.
3) The prospective new owners talked to Snoddy personally to try to convince him to stay.
4) Snoddy was perfectly happy to stay until Norwich got Beckford's agent involved in the deal, he is seemingly the one who "turned his head".
 
Superman wears Grant Holt pyjamas in bed said:
i think most leeds fans are very astute but i don't like the fact that one or two are hoping we get relegated because we keep taking their players. it's not our fault! they need to look closer to home as to the reason their top players all want to join us and others. nothing against simon here - i understand he was jesting a little, but i do find it slightly sad that some feel that we should be the ones who get retribution for their own clubs failings.

its similar, i suppose, to some norwich fans who are desperately hoping villa fail. why? just cos they took our ex-manager?

grow up <ok>
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I think it's more so he can say to Snoddy and possibly Howson "told you so"..especially if Leeds get promoted and we go down. Grass isn't always greener etc..
 
Superman wears Grant Holt pyjamas in bed said:
the major difference between the teams in league one was that we weren't reliant on one player to score our goals - we had three banging them in all over the place. i think leeds had the better quality in midfield but we were better in all other areas.
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I would completely disagree, yes in League 1 Beckford was the main man, but in the Championship we had Becchio, Gradel, Howson and Snoddy all chipping in. In fact we were top scorers right up until the last couple of games, by which point we had fallen away. I think you were better in the centre of midfield (barring Howson in the AM role) and at the back, but that front 4 would walk into any team in the Championship and most lower half PL teams.
 
irdan said:
I think it's more so he can say to Snoddy and possibly Howson "told you so"..especially if Leeds get promoted and we go down. Grass isn't always greener etc..
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Exactly. I know realistically that's not the case and Norwich have a far better chance of being in the PL in 2013/14 than us, but rational thinking doesn't come into it I'm afraid.
 
We hardly relied on one man Becchio scored 15 snodgrass scored 10 the year we went up, just Grayson had no idea how to finish off :) hence why his wife left him haha
 
Simon21-LUFC said:
I would completely disagree, yes in League 1 Beckford was the main man, but in the Championship we had Becchio, Gradel, Howson and Snoddy all chipping in. In fact we were top scorers right up until the last couple of games, by which point we had fallen away. I think you were better in the centre of midfield (barring Howson in the AM role) and at the back, but that front 4 would walk into any team in the Championship and most lower half PL teams.
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i said in league one, not the championship. in that year we bought far better than leeds did. players like surman, jackson and crofts made such a difference to us. we were top scorers in both league one and the championship but we could also defend better than leeds - our goal differences were +50 and +26 if i remember correctly
 
Quote from Colin on Snoddy : "He believes his Scotland international career may be better served in the Premier League, but I'm not so sure."

REALLY? That's like saying "My mate John reckons that his ethical, Free-Range, Organic Delicatessen will do better in Chelsea than it will in Grimsby, but I'm not so sure".

Disclaimer: Leeds is a very nice City, and comparing it to Grimsby is very unfair, however for the purposes of that fictional situation it was suitable.
 
CanariesSoccer said:
Quote from Colin on Snoddy : "He believes his Scotland international career may be better served in the Premier League, but I'm not so sure."

REALLY? That's like saying "My mate John reckons that his ethical, Free-Range, Organic Delicatessen will do better in Chelsea than it will in Grimsby, but I'm not so sure".

Disclaimer: Leeds is a very nice City, and comparing it to Grimsby is very unfair, however for the purposes of that fictional situation it was suitable.
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Already said CS. It's on par with his comments regarding Drury 'wanting to prove his old club wrong.' <doh>
 
Simon21-LUFC said:
I think Colin's just hurting as well, bare in mind he wanted to build a team around Snoddy.
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he probably is, but i just find him repulsive. everything he says makes my stomach turn. he twists things - of course, he's never been in the wrong - but everyone is against him. out of every single person in football, he's the one that i could never tire of punching in the face. thing is, he's a very good manager, i just don't like him at all. i do think he'll do well for leeds though <ok>
 
I haven't yet heard that he has actually signed. Be a lot of red faces if he doesn't! It's football remember! <ok>
 
Can someone explain to me how Drury haveing a great year in the Championship would prove anyone wrong? If Liverpoll loaned Carroll to Leeds and he banged in 30 goals at that level would he prove Rogers wrong? Colin should really try to think before he spouts off.

I would also be amazed if Drury felt any bitterness towards NCFC and I would not be at all surprised if he ended up here as an ambassador once his playing days are done.
 
Superman wears Grant Holt pyjamas in bed said:
he probably is, but i just find him repulsive. everything he says makes my stomach turn. he twists things - of course, he's never been in the wrong - but everyone is against him. out of every single person in football, he's the one that i could never tire of punching in the face. thing is, he's a very good manager, i just don't like him at all. i do think he'll do well for leeds though <ok>
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Pretty much agree with all of that!!! <ok>
 
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