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  1. Germlands Nozzer

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  3. Germlands Nozzer

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    Well yes, if you take his best season out, the rate goes down, obviously.
     
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  4. Jimmy Squarefoot

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    Taking out one 1 season shouldn't have much an impact.

    In Rodgers case, I'm sure it does - which shows you how poor he was apart from 13/14
     
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    League win rate:

    12/13: 42%
    13/14: 68%
    14/15: 47%
    15/16: 38% (3 of 8 games)

    14/15 and 15/16 were both one only win away from a 50% record. Fine margins...
     
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    Fixed.

    Not that I necesarily believe that, but it shows the flaw in your Argument - 57.5% win rate for the other two full seasons.
     
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    Rafas records (league only):

    2004/2005: 45%
    2005/2006: 66%
    2006/2007: 53%
    2007/2008: 55%
    2008/2009: 66%
    2009/2010: 47%
     
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  8. Jimmy Squarefoot

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    Not sure I understand - ignoring, 13-14, Rodgers average for 2 full seasons is 44.5% which isn't good enough.

    Not sure where you get 57.5% from.

    Point is - look at Rafa's average, and you can take out his best season and the overall average won't move that much.

    For Rodgers, it completely changes. Hence, his best season is not indicative of his true ability.
     
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    Your point was that, ignoring 13-14, Rodgers average for 2 full seasons is 44.5% which isn't good enough. (Correct).

    My point was simply that, ignoring 12-13, Rodgers average for 2 full seasons is 57.5% which is significantly better.

    Your conclusion is therefore not that sound, because you can say the same thing about his worst season.
     
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    Ah ok, got you.

    Fair point - but I think it's safer to say that 12/13 is more in line with Rodgers's ability than 13/14 is.
     
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    Possibly/probably; the standard deviation is lower. But then there are many factors. This is obviously quite a simplistic analysis. It would be interesting to see Rodgers rates in the first and second halves of the 12/13, for example, as well as the fact that he was still getting to know the team and didn't have a striker after the whole Carroll/Dempsey calamity (for which he was probably also at least partly culpable).
     
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    <laugh>

    Nah, saying he was not successful very far from the green green grass of home, Lennon's fame and success has been around much longer and his tunes are still being played globally right now.<whistle>
     
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    I'm now trying to imagine Ferguson doing the Carlton. Can anyone do a gif?
     
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  16. InBiscanWeTrust

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    Take out Rafas and its 49.5
    Rodgers is 44.5
    Not overly different, and arguably the league is stronger now as Rafa never had a strong city or Spurs to deal with.
     
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  17. Wasn't Brod the manager in 13-14...? Why remove it? He's not our manager anymore, why not just appreciate the 2013-14 season he gave us? Most entertainment and enjoyable season I've witness as a liverpool fan.
     
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    Or take out the other 2 seasons and he was AWESOME! :emoticon-0102-bigsm
     
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    Or take out all 3 and he never even existed <diva>
     
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  20. Jimmy Squarefoot

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    Because that one season is an anomaly. we were trying to draw a trend and I explaining how much that one season inflates his overall average. For a quality manager, you can take out their best season and it shouldn't impact his average that much. With Rodgers, it does.

    And IBWT, how did you get 49%? Taken out Rafa's best season and his percentage is still 53%+.
     
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