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If we let Raphina or Harrison leave and also allow Summerville to leave I'll be lumping on relegation.

I genuinely think Summerville could step in for Raphinha.
 
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Playing devils advocate here but he was the only manager who was properly backed. Remember Warnock for example could only affor el hadj jiouf for example
Okay, but I can’t really remember (might be my age) who he brought in when he got us promoted that made us go wow (for the championship). I’m ready to be reminded / corrected <cheers>
 
Okay, but I can’t really remember (might be my age) who he brought in when he got us promoted that made us go wow (for the championship). I’m ready to be reminded / corrected <cheers>
Hélder Costa, Benjamin White (loan), Jack Harrison (loan), Illan Meslier (loan) and Eddie Nketiah (loan)
Even those loans were about 2m a year plus wages. Completely unheard of amounts of money for previous 16 seasons. Btw in o way am I trying to detract from Bielsas achievement but put a little perspective on it
 
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Hélder Costa, Benjamin White (loan), Jack Harrison (loan), Illan Meslier (loan) and Eddie Nketiah (loan)
Even those loans were about 2m a year plus wages. Completely unheard of amounts of money for previous 16 seasons. Btw in o way am I trying to detract from Bielsas achievement but put a little perspective on it
You forgot Bamford

Edit Poveda and Douglas,
 
Hélder Costa, Benjamin White (loan), Jack Harrison (loan), Illan Meslier (loan) and Eddie Nketiah (loan)
Even those loans were about 2m a year plus wages. Completely unheard of amounts of money for previous 16 seasons. Btw in o way am I trying to detract from Bielsas achievement but put a little perspective on it
So, with the exception of Costa who played in the championship with wolves every other player was a gamble. As balance, how many did he get rid of that were brought in at request of previous managers? Are you saying Heckingbottom would have got us promoted with the same players.
 
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Hélder Costa, Benjamin White (loan), Jack Harrison (loan), Illan Meslier (loan) and Eddie Nketiah (loan)
Even those loans were about 2m a year plus wages. Completely unheard of amounts of money for previous 16 seasons. Btw in o way am I trying to detract from Bielsas achievement but put a little perspective on it
*Costa felt like a new addition (although could argue Saiz left few months before with no replacement, albeit slightly different positions)
*White replaced Jansson who was highly rated and sold for a decent fee. Worked out well for the 1 season, but when we couldn't make it permanent left us looking around in a shortened pre season.
*Harrison turned out well.
*Meslier came in as a bench player and only needed due to a ban but took his chance well.
*Nketiah replaced Roofe. I liked Roofe in Bielsa's first season in particular and feel this didn't work out so well due to him being recalled and us then wasting money on JKA.
*Bamford replaced Lassoga (Wood). Got a big fee for Wood, fair enough the Bamford signing did show ambition.
*Douglas again a good signing on paper but didn't quite work out.

Got good money for Jack Clarke and Vieira too.

In conclusion I didn't have much expectation based on ins/outs, but the performances were class right from the off.
 
So, with the exception of Costa who played in the championship wolves every other player was a gamble. As balance, how many did he get rid of that were brought in at request of previous managers? Are you saying Heckingbottom would have got us promoted with the same players.
Point I made is Bielsa was properly backed. Heckungbittom was another mistake. Gary monk managed 7th with virtually no backing for example
 
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Point I made is Bielsa was properly backed. Heckungbittom was another mistake. Gary monk managed 7th with virtually no backing for example
Yeah Heckingbottom a complete waste in that period, good job he didn't do relatively well or they may have persisted with him!
Monk brought in Green, Roofe, Ayling, O'Kane Bridcutt, Pablo, Bartley and Jansson. Pedrazza and Barrow in the winter.
On the back of the foreigners leaving and Cook being sold.

Interesting matchup between the 16/17 and 18/19 squads
 
I’ve already said I’m not trying to diminish anything. Read my original post please


OK being the pedantic so and so that I am, I did exactly what you said Eire, and found you're very first and original post on 14 May 2011 :emoticon-0102-bigsm

Have just "transferred" from the old 606 at huge expense. Please tell me those Wims that plagued that site, particularly in recent months, haven't arrived here. I don't think I could stand reading the depressing garbage they spew daily

This of course has nothing at all to do with the discussion on this thread, its just me being me and taking Eire's challenge of reading his "original post" in the most literal sense that I could :)

Thank god its was only the fourth from last page of posts for our part of the forum, or else I might have even lost the will to do something that would mildly appeal to my own sense of humour :emoticon-0136-giggl
 
OK being the pedantic so and so that I am, I did exactly what you said Eire, and found you're very first and original post on 14 May 2011 :emoticon-0102-bigsm



This of course has nothing at all to do with the discussion on this thread, its just me being me and taking Eire's challenge of reading his "original post" in the most literal sense that I could :)

Thank god its was only the fourth from last page of posts for our part of the forum, or else I might have even lost the will to do something that would mildly appeal to my own sense of humour :emoticon-0136-giggl
brilliant. Didn’t realise I’m here 11 years
 
OK being the pedantic so and so that I am, I did exactly what you said Eire, and found you're very first and original post on 14 May 2011 :emoticon-0102-bigsm



This of course has nothing at all to do with the discussion on this thread, its just me being me and taking Eire's challenge of reading his "original post" in the most literal sense that I could :)

Thank god its was only the fourth from last page of posts for our part of the forum, or else I might have even lost the will to do something that would mildly appeal to my own sense of humour :emoticon-0136-giggl
Nutter! <cheers><yikes>
 
Didn't realise that I'd been here 11 years too. Well, come August it will. Serves me right for lurking too long.

Guess I must have been 18 when I joined, given I'm only 29! <whistle> (And if any basturd shouts: "29 stone, more like!", they're dead! :D


Just so you don't feel left out WJ.

Posted 13 August 2011, on page 597 of our section of the forum :)

I'm trying hard not to moan about Grayson, but he took me to the limit when he substituted Snoddy with Thomson. A boy for a man. Why? Anyone got any idea? (and I don't accept that Snoddy was tired, btw).

BTW I think Snoddy was tired ;)