Crikey, you really like the Japanese raider this year then? I am going for Camelot. Looks like he will run If the rain comes in Arc week then Nathaniel will be backed. But no antepost value so I'll play on the day/day before.
I do like him, obviously joking aside he is far from a certainty in what looks an open Arc but I think he has the engine and the turn of foot to go very close, he should get a fast pace to close off and if things fall his way he will be hard to match in the final furlong. The fillies look to have a good chance, I couldnt have Nathaniel at all, even if its soft. Are you serious about Camelot? Where have you seen its likely he will run?
The exchanges point to him running I think Joe. I could have backed him (and almost did) last night at 18s. He is now firmed up at 9s and 8.8s on the Betfair and Betdaq markets. RV also said a lot of Twitter talk saying Joseph said the Arc is a big possibility. I do think Orfevre will run a blinder- the Japs make no secret of the ones they think will go well and there has been much talk with this one for some time. Will come on for the Arc run but I didn't think there was quite that turn of foot. I just think he might get seen off by one or two at the business end. I think Camelot holds a lot of the keys as he is the big 3 year old star- if he runs.
I remember that race now. The commentator, was he .................................foreign? At first I thought the jockey took a pull but, as Amanda put it, the horse was being a little **** and the jockey did what he had to do. My experts here think he won't have the same problem in October. Any idea of the class of field he beat in that race Joe and also the time relative to anything meaningful?
Crikey they sprinted into the stalls there, what do they do different over there that makes the stall handlers pretty much redundant?
He got beat in the race Ron, it was a group 2 and he was 1/10, Oken Bruce Lee, Hiruno D'Amour and Jaguar Mail were previous Group 1 winners, the winner Gustave Cry had some solid Group 2 form with Win Variation who ran second to Orfevre in two of the Triple Crown races. Beat Black was well beaten and went on to win the Tenno Sho by 4 lengths getting very close to Deep Impacts world record time, with Jaguar Mail and Gustave Cry in 4rth in 5th and Orfevre miles back after being set an impossible task. Overall it wasnt the most competitive heat hence his price, but the following runs of some of the field in the Tenno Sho tells you that it was a fair level and it was hugely impressive that he went close to winning after doing that, I think the time was solid aswell.
To paraphrase the remark made by Senator Lloyd Bentsen to Dan Quayle during the pre-election VP debate in the United States in 1988, i.e. ""Senator, you're no Jack Kennedy", "Fenster, you're no Prophet"................
