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Wednesday 10th October Daily Thread

Discussion in 'Horse Racing' started by Black Caviar, Oct 10, 2012.

  1. Black Caviar

    Black Caviar 1 of the top judges in Europe

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    Nottingham 4.00 Spirit Of The Law 13/2

    Likeable horse, down a few pounds since his last win and back on soft ground, he is the best horse in the race and with Buick booked id be disappointed if he didnt go close.
     
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  2. ROTO

    ROTO Well-Known Member

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    Going to try and keep these short.

    3.10 Ludlow

    Battlecry 11/1 NAP


    Given Nigel Twiston-Davies incredible form over the past couple of weeks (7-17), I think this battle hardened 11 year old looks rather overpriced. A very talented chaser in his peak, Battlecry is still a pretty decent animal in the latter part of his career and I think he'll be fully wound up on the back of his 112 day break when last seen falling at Worcester in June. Despite not being at his best in his last 3 starts this year (May/June), he put up some really decent efforts in defeat off only a 1lb lower mark including a 0.5L defeat in a more competitive race in April at Cheltenham. He's not the easiest horse to win with having scored in only 2 of his 37 chasing starts to date but he is very consistent having finished placed a further 18 times in this sphere so he generally gives a very good run for money. His last win came in November last year off a 6lb lower mark in easy fashion and Cheltenham and a big positive was that it came under today's 7lb claimer Mr R Hatch who also put was only beaten by 0.5L on him in one of his other two starts on Battlecry so he clearly gets on very well with this gelding. Furthermore, he's gone well a couple of times around Ludlow before so that's another positive note to his credentials. With his trainer in such good form and now reunited with his last winning jockey, I think 11/1 makes this 11 year old rather overpriced and with conditions seeming perfect today I can see Battlecry being very popular in the market today and hopefully this confidence is rewarded with a well deserved win.

    4.50 Towcester

    Marked Man 33/1


    Its going to take a monumental effort for this now 16 year old to land this contest but given that he won this contest last year off a 10lb higher mark I just think he's an overpriced animal. Last years running of this was nowhere near as competitive than this (6 runners) but he rolled back the years to win by 3L to Overton Lad with the front two drawing a distance away from the others. Overton Lad reopposes tomorrow and is as short as 10/1 in the betting despite being 19lb worse off in the handicap so from purely that perspective he looks a far more appealing betting proposition. He showed that victory was no fluke when running another fantastic race on his next start in November last year when finishing an excellent 1.5L beaten 2nd off a 5lb higher mark of 95 at the track over 2f shorter. That race has a fair bit of substance to it with the winner Pingaro De La Vire scoring off a 6lb higher mark 2 months later whilst the 3rd Hever Road won NTO off the same mark and off 5lb higher in March of this year. This year Marked Man hasn't been at his best in 4 starts but he could easily have been aimed for another go at this race having been successful in it last year. Jake Greenhall, who guided this then 15 year old to victory in this last year, takes the ride on what is his only action of the day so hopefully he's making the trip for a worthwhile ride. If age hasn't caught up with him (a big if!) given that he is 10lb below his mark in this previous renewal and 15lb below an excellent 2nd at the track last year he looks on a very workable mark and with conditions looking ideal it would be absolutely fantastic if this 16 year old could come up with another win in this race.

    4.30 Nottingham

    Fair Trade 33/1


    This is what I wrote for him in the Silver Cambridgeshire 12 days ago and although I'm a bit surprised he's out so quickly afterwards as something looked amiss as he was pulled up when seemingly going fine prior to that at about half but the handicapper has taken another slash to his rating by dropping him 7lb and this Class 4 looks a significantly easier race so I'm going to have a small play. Graham Lee takes the ride and if bouncing back he could make a mockery of this mark (again, big leap of faith!)

     
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  3. Sir Barney Chuckles

    Sir Barney Chuckles Who Dares Wins

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    Morning, team. How are we??? Good, good. Must say people that there is one that I really, really like today and the old boy runs over the water in the lucky last at Navan:

    Dancers Dilemma (6.05 Navan) – this one has obviously had problems in the past as he is touching 8 and to date has only ran 3 times (all in National Hunt flat races) however he has hinted, in the process, at being well, and I do mean well, above average. A very easy winner at Ballinrobe in May he also has exceptional placed form in finishing just behind the likes of Pique Sous (3rd in Festival Bumper and dual winner since) and Loosen My Load (now a 148 rated chaser and 6 time winner since beating today’s selection by just 1.75 lengths). Although this looks a competitive maiden I think Dancers Dilemma stands out and has the capability to excel both today and in the future. Furthermore, his yard won this heat 12 months ago so know what is required.

    Good luck, all.
     
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  4. Bluesky9

    Bluesky9 Philosopher

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    I quite like an outsider in Stellar Express in this race at 12-1, the horse loves the track and clearly shows well at home as has been tried in better company without showing she merits it fully.

    Nottingham 4.00
    Stellar Express 12-1
     
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  5. Chaninbar

    Chaninbar The Crafty Cockney

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    A rare foray onto the the daily thread to nominatePresent to You Towester 2.50 @ 20/1 ew.
    There are a few high profile entries in this race and I really liked the market leader Hazy Tom over hurdles. However having read his trainers comments on his website this morning (schooling in public?) I wouldn't be surprised to see him turned over. The top 4 in the market have the grand total of one race between them over the bigger obstacles whereas my selection has had 15 goes running pretty creditably on many occasions. Not sure how he qualifies for a beginners chase to be honest but I think his experience may just give him the edge. Then factor in that his trainer has 26% success rate in chases during 2012 (rising to 66% if adding in minor honours) leads me to feel he's worth an ew speculation. Good luck to all.
     
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  6. OddDog

    OddDog Mild mannered janitor Staff Member

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    As Roland Rat used to say ........................ "Morning Keviiiiiiiiiiiiin"

    I think I've found 4 for a nice littel Lucky 15 today:

    2.20 Towcester Goat Castle (6/1) - a ropey individual at best but ran a decent 4th on seasonal reappearance and the step up in trip can finally help him break his duck
    2.40 Ludlow Mrs Peachey (11/2) - beat a Henderson hotpot in a Bumper at Bangor in May and makes more appeal than the previous winners in the race.
    2.50 Towcester Hazy Tom (11/8) - easily the best of these over hurdles and a very exciting recruit to novice chasing. The booking of Jason Maguire catches the eye.
    5.50 Towcester Pair Of Jacks (7/2) - Malcolm Jefferson has had a good start to the season and Pair Of Jacks certainly fits the bill on breeding

    Best of British to each and every bally one of you!
     
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    Frankel worked on the Rowley Mile again this morning, pulling 20 lengths clear of his companion Midsummer Sun. Pictures from Twitter:

    Getting ready

    Pulling clear
     
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  8. OddDog

    OddDog Mild mannered janitor Staff Member

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    Nice update from Don McCain on some of his stable stars on Sporting Life:

    Peddlers Cross: "He is in super form at home and I plan to run him first in the Ascot Hurdle over 2m4f. That race will tell us whether we go back to 2m for another Champion Hurdle campaign or we step up to 3m and look at Big Buck's. If we do the latter he would be one of the first seriously classy horses the unbeaten champ has faced and, who knows, it could be very exciting." Sky Bet offer 20-1 about Peddlers Cross for the World Hurdle at the Cheltenham Festival.

    Overturn: "I've schooled him over fences this summer and he has taken to them very well. I think he could be heading to those proper fences at Carlisle to start off. He is obviously going to be very exciting this season and I expect him to develop into a leading Arkle contender."

    Cinders And Ashes: "He has come back even stronger for the summer break and the big target this season will be the Champion Hurdle. Make no mistake, he is right up there with the very best hurdlers. His return race is most likely to be the Fighting Fifth Hurdle, in which we have been very lucky having won it for each of the past two seasons with Peddlers Cross and Overturn. This horse is certainly up to the task and I can't wait to get him back on track."
     
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  9. rainbowview

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    All about MOTH today 4.35 <cheers>

    good luck all
     
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  10. OddDog

    OddDog Mild mannered janitor Staff Member

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    A 2YO on debut over a mile on Soft/Heavy <yikes>

    Brave man to be taking any 7/4
     
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  11. rainbowview

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    Would take 1/2 for her never mind 7/4 - great price
     
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  12. OddDog

    OddDog Mild mannered janitor Staff Member

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    I'm sure you're right mate <ok>

    I guess you're happy about St James Park getting its name back?
     
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  13. rainbowview

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    I hope so mate <ok> will have to wait and see.

    And yeah I am happy about SJP but still furious about Wonga tbh. I don't think it is right and although it will not matter at all I certainly won't be buying a new shirt with Wonga printed on it. Have been stung by them bastards before when I was out of work and younger. I know it was my own fault but I was desperate for money to go out with my mates all the time and they lent me a big sum even know they knew I wasn't working. Criminal interest rates as well - ******S !!! - learnt my lesson though ;) even though I did borrow money from them once to have a bet when I had a job and got paid the next day <rofl>
     
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  14. Sir Barney Chuckles

    Sir Barney Chuckles Who Dares Wins

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    RV, think you might be right about that Moth. Got to say though that it is a terrible name for a filly.

    Meanwhile, people, I hope that we are all feeling inspired after Mr Cameron&#8217;s wonderful, and I do mean wonderful, speech to the Party. Where there was previously darkness he has shone light and where in &#8216;Broken&#8217; Britain earlier today there was despair now there is hope...
     
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  15. rainbowview

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    SBC <laugh> look at the bottom SAY

    Btw Mr O'Brien won the race last year with KISSED
     
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  16. OddDog

    OddDog Mild mannered janitor Staff Member

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    I remember many years ago the Owls were sponsored by Mr Tom - the ****tiest sweets ever <laugh>
     
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  17. Sir Barney Chuckles

    Sir Barney Chuckles Who Dares Wins

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    The naming division at Coolmore have obviously slipped their standards then if in 12 months they have gone from naming fillies Kissed to Moth and Say! Although yesterday a filly triumphed called Mucky Molly (how one earth was that moniker ever allowed) so maybe the way to go is to now back horses with terrible as opposed to lovely names.
     
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  18. rainbowview

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    Odddy <rofl> they are awful

    SBC agreed old boy
     
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    OddDog Mild mannered janitor Staff Member

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    I quite liked the name of that winner yesterday at Catterick - Iwilsayzisonlyonce by Kyllachy out of Resistance Heroine <laugh>
     
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  20. rainbowview

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    <laugh> top stuff. Surprised they got that one through
     
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