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We have to stop feeling sorry for ourselves

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by The Norton Cat, Oct 28, 2016.

  1. The Norton Cat

    The Norton Cat Well-Known Member

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    So says Chris Sutton.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/37783264

    Its not great analysis but it makes the point that Moyes hasn't helped himself with his negative attitude. I'm inclined to agree with that opinion. There's no mention of our failings in the transfer market but, as the piece asks, would we only be on 2 points if Allardyce was still in charge?
     
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    Nordic Well-Known Member

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    I think Sutton is a bit of a cock. But he's not wrong at all.

    Moyes' doom-mongering has bit him , and us, well and truly on the arass.

    Sam in the frame for the Wolves job...
     
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  3. MrRAWhite

    MrRAWhite Well-Known Member

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    I always find this Kipling piece is very appropriate when things are going very bad or very well to offer a sense of balance..
    If you can keep your head when all about you
    Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
    If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
    But make allowance for their doubting too;
    If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
    Or being lied about, don’t deal in lies,
    Or being hated, don’t give way to hating,
    And yet don’t look too good, nor talk too wise:
    If you can dream—and not make dreams your master;
    If you can think—and not make thoughts your aim;
    If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
    And treat those two impostors just the same;
    If you can bear to hear the truth you’ve spoken
    Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
    Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
    And stoop and build ’em up with worn-out tools:
    If you can make one heap of all your winnings
    And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
    And lose, and start again at your beginnings
    And never breathe a word about your loss;
    If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
    To serve your turn long after they are gone,
    And so hold on when there is nothing in you
    Except the Will which says to them: ‘Hold on!’
    If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
    Or walk with Kings—nor lose the common touch,
    If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
    If all men count with you, but none too much;
    If you can fill the unforgiving minute
    With sixty seconds’ worth of distance run,
    Yours is the Earth and everything that’s in it,
    And—which is more—you’ll be a Man, my son!
    Source: A Choice of Kipling's Verse (1943)
     
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  4. The Norton Cat

    The Norton Cat Well-Known Member

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    That's very nice @MrRAWhite. Personally, I prefer this one by William Ernest Henley. Its seen me through some very dark times.

    Out of the night that covers me,
    Black as the pit from pole to pole,
    I thank whatever gods may be
    For my unconquerable soul.

    In the fell clutch of circumstance
    I have not winced nor cried aloud.
    Under the bludgeonings of chance
    My head is bloody, but unbowed.

    Beyond this place of wrath and tears
    Looms but the Horror of the shade,
    And yet the menace of the years
    Finds and shall find me unafraid.

    It matters not how strait the gate,
    How charged with punishments the scroll,
    I am the master of my fate,
    I am the captain of my soul.
     
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  5. Blunham Mackem

    Blunham Mackem Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Norton, your thread got a bit deep very quickly.

    But you and RAW have just posted 2 verses that should be required reading for all children, irrespective of race, creed, culture or religion.

    Kudos, both of you.
     
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    Disco down under Well-Known Member

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    As poems go...

    I once knew a man named Keith
    Who circumcised men with his teeth
    He didn't do it for leisure
    Or sexual pleasure
    But did it for the cheese underneath

    That's posted by a chap with first class degrees in both English Literature and Creative Writing.

    Education is overrated.
     
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  7. MrRAWhite

    MrRAWhite Well-Known Member

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    This is a wonderful poem from an unknown Frenchman

    Une Petite, Deux Petite
    Set on, De Valle,
    Une Petite, Deux, Petite
    Ad Er Gret Falle..
     
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    Disco down under Well-Known Member

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    Voltaire?
     
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    Disco down under Well-Known Member

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    Balzac?
     
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  10. MrRAWhite

    MrRAWhite Well-Known Member

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    Don't call me a ball sack ya twat..
     
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    Nacho Well-Known Member

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    I've always liked this one by Sacificus Nachosicus:

    "We're ****"
     
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