Based just on results the sacking was harsh, but it seemed to me that something more fundamental was wrong. He supported Baldini's appointment but didn't seem to like the way it turned out in practice and the Adebayor situation didn't look right either. Looking from the outside sacking Ade rather than AVB might have been the right solution but we don't know what targets Levy set AVB at the start
based on Ade's track record, I'm more inclined to take AVB's side on that, even if AVB did have major faults we didn't know about. So will Levy cut Poch some slack with his targets, bearing in mind several managers have not been able to deliver Levy's goal? I think he will, unless Poch has an absolute mare. I think levy knows that if he pulls the trigger on this one, the fans will turn on him.
If the targets are written properly and are somehow related to the long-term development of the team then I'm perfectly happy with Levy sacking people who don't achieve them: we don't need mediocre stability - we need someone who is going to make a difference. How to measure who that is the real problem. In my life time I think only Busby, Nicholson, Shankly, Paisley, Ferguson and Wenger out of 100s of managers appointed at the top level have moved their club into a really different era. Even Clough doesn't count because he didn't achieve a long-lasting transformation. So what I want Levy to be able to do is to distinguish between someone like those 5 (none of whom were 'top' managers when appointed) and keep them for ever while sacking everyone else as quickly as he can find out that they don't have those capabilities so that we can test someone else. Stability is over-rated.
Realistically, when I say I'd like stability, which I do, what I really mean is 1 1/2 years at least, accompanied by a concerted effort to get the manager the players he wants. If we do a reasonably good job of the latter (and we absolutely did not with AVB, whatever his merits or lack of them) 1 1/2 years ought to be enough time for a manager to show us what he's got.
Yeah, I feel for you guys. There's just no loyalty in football. I would have loved to have seen what the future could have held for that saints team, but sadly i think there's going to be lots of new faces down there next season. But at least you'll have plenty of dosh if the "bullies" come knocking. - Just don't come to us for advice on how to spend it wisely!
The saints fans may feel less aggrieved when Pochettino is sacked after being another failure, although Hopefully they will still be in the premier league as they are a good little club.
AVB was dreadful for us. He should never have been appointed, as it was always going to end in disgrace (for both AVB and Levy). Not only was our football under him some of the worst I have seen us play, but, towards the end of his tenure, he was clearly loosing the respect of some of the players. Sherwood coming in seemed to make matters worse, especially with his bizarre preference for playing youth over experience, his side-lining of Sandro, and his apparent inability to understand the importance of the defensive-midfield role in modern football. Please, let's not shed too many tears for the loss of AVB. As regards Poch, I have greater hope for him. I have been impressed by what he did with Saints, especially after taking over from a well-respected manager, who was perceived by most Saints' fans as not needing replacement. Poch went in and, very quickly, began to improve the club in all kinds of ways, that significantly increased the attractiveness of their playing style, brought the best out in individual players (many of whom are now being coveted by CL sides), and made St Mary's Stadium a very difficult ground for other teams to walk away with any points. Whilst we may be ahead of Saints in all material and key respects, we are, nonetheless, a club that needs improving - defence, midfield, attack - all need sorting out; nor do I believe that it's simply a matter of selling players and getting others in. We clearly have some very good players who, for whatever reason, simply are not playing at any where near their potential. If Poch can sort that out, get us playing the kind of football that he had Saints playing, we'll all be singing his name from the terraces and our armchairs. And, yes, I am hopeful that he'll be able to deliver, and that it will set us up nicely for the long term.
Pochettino has his chance, he doesn't need each and every fan to believe in him, based on what he done at Southampton. Although I was one of the few fans who had Southampton to finish 8th (last season) so I'm very aware of the job he done there (and could see the potential before last season), yet I don't feel hes right for us.
I believe your exact words were, WHEN he's sacked, not IF he's sacked. How us that giving the guy a chance? Ever considered the possibility that you might just be wrong about him? Only time will tell if Levy has finally got it right, or not.
Since most managerial careers end in failure, or at least the sack, you are on to a good thing making such a prediction. But let's test how good you are at judging managers: go through the bottom half of the PL and tell us which ones will be in place at Christmas, the end of the season, and the end of the 2016 season. I'm confident that this will show that you are worse at judging managers than Levy! And try the top 7 - which are the first two to be sacked? I'm going for Martinez and Mourinho.
You're taking things far too literal. Me typing "when" (WHEN ) is just typed with a wry smile. I've already said I have no personal issue with Pochettino and he could well prove me wrong but I'm not going to sit on the fence and just go with "Only time will tell" as you can apply that to virtually any aspect of football, yet my intial view is he isn't right for us and won't get us back into the top four. If he proves me wrong, then its a bonus, as essentially all i'm interested in, is what's best for Tottenham.
Poch's previous PL success makes him a better prospect. The greater success and the more comparable the situation, the more the buy-in.
It will be difficult to top last season as I predicted Pulis would be a success at Palace (and win manager of the year) before anyone else jumped on the bandwagon and also predicted Pochettino would lead Southampton into the top 8 but I'm not claiming to be an expert on if managers will be a success, surprised you think that Power. Although as for your two punts, Martinez would only be sacked if Everton are taken over by a billionaire and they want a higher profile manager, otherwise I can't see him being sacked as Everton are realistic with their ambitions.
Yes, Everton would have been delighted with 5th, whereas Levy would not (and is obviously less impressed with 6th). That's the stability issued summed up, right there.
And panic attacks galore if they finished 4th! I know their chairman comes in for stick (from their fans), but Everton know their place (without showing any disrespect) and are just happy to float around 5th-7th and play exciting football under Martinez. He would need to finish outside the top half (two seasons on the spin) before their current owner even considered sacking him.
I think all of us need to respect others opinions on the manager. None of us know if he'll be a success (no doubt he is a risk), and so conflicting views are reasonable and expected. From what I can see Boss, NSIS and Power all care about Spurs - no one is sticking the boot in to the club arbitarily - and that is the only criteria I judge our posters on.
