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Discussion in 'Hull City' started by DMD, Nov 14, 2013.

  1. DMD

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    I was only half joking, Bush spent more than any other Pres on black ops and took a very close interest in stuff like remote viewing etc.
     
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  2. Quill

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    Now that one IS bullshit.

    One simple thing says it all - if it was apparently fake, why didn't the Soviets come out and accuse it of being so?
     
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    Considering its existence was fervently denied until only a few weeks ago, I'm sure at some point in the past the fact it even existed was just a crazy conspiracy until it was obvious common knowledge.
     
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  4. ellewoods

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    Area 51 isnt a conspiracy. It is one of a series of Top seceret government testing zones. There are a ton of them in that area and some in Maryland to. That isnt a conspiracy. It is where they test flew the stealth fighters and drones etc.
     
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  5. ellewoods

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    It was common knowledge because there were government guards stopping you from driving up. They just didnt admit what it was but there were thousands of people who worked there over the years and plenty talked about what was being done there.
     
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  6. DMD

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    I reckon it's the other numbers where the dodgy stuff happens, the secret number 51 is a sideshow.

    TOP SECRET RESEARCH SITE
     
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  7. Craigo

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    I'm afraid this is typical of deluded Americans. You lot just lap up everything your government feeds you.
    LBJ signed off on the military going into Vietnam big time as soon as JFK was out of the way. This included huge orders being sent to military hardware manufacturers.
    The military autopsy (by force) was so farcical the Communists in Soviet Russia couldn't have got away with it. They actually supposedly lost his brain.
    The evidence is everywhere apart from to those who don't want to see it.
     
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  8. Quill

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    I remember spending hours looking for Area 51 on Google Maps once (without cheating AKA using the search bar).


    I was very bored that day.
     
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  9. ellewoods

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    Watch the Myth Busters episode on it. It was one of the better episodes. They go through all the conspiracys on the moon landing and prove how all of them are nonsense.

    Like the flag moving with no wind. The footprints staying in the sand with no mosture to hold the shape. The mulitple shadows from different angles. There are other ones to they show.
     
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  10. DMD

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    I'm convinced they never landed on the moon. It was really Jupiter. <ok>
     
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    To be fair, I just put in the post code they wrote on my birth certificate.
     
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    That isnt a Military coup.

    Yes LBJ increased our precense in Vietnam no doubt about it. No doubt that Kennedy did not want that level of escalation especially after his failed bay of pigs invasion (even though it wasnt his plan it was the presidents before him).

    There are plent of reasons why people in the US at the time would have wanted Kennedy out of the way. This is the US though, they didnt have to kill him to get him out of the way. Millions to another canidate would have done the same thing. Our corporations and the military industrial complex do not have to think in 4 year or 8 year terms. Their contracts are for longer period of times and they can buy politicians and policies easy enough. They dont need some dark conspiracy to do something that they do quite publically.

    You think that even now Lockeed Martin, Northup Grumen or the other dozens of companies need to give secret donations or have meetings in dark rooms to get our politicians to do what they want? No their donations are public knowledge and they walk right through the white house door for their talks. They dont need a conspiracy to do what they do.

    It isnt that we are oblivious to what our government does, quite the oposite actually. Normal people realise that they do not need to do crazy conspiracies. The normal covert ops and covert plans are far easier and are not illegal at all.
     
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  13. Craigo

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    [video=youtube;hZU_IbxMfCY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZU_IbxMfCY[/video]

    So that shot came from behind did it?

    I think you should just calm down because you're embarrassing yourself. There is so much evidence of a conspiracy / cover up in the JFK case that you would have to be ******ed to ignore it all.
     
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    Again rubbish. Kennedy was so popular in 63 that nobody could have beat him in an election.
    "This is the US though, they didnt have to kill him to get him out of the way" - You're joking aren't you? I know Americans don't get irony, but that statement is ridiculous. How many assassinations were there in the 60s in the US?
     
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    I cant stream videos now that I have moved to my farm. But I have watched dozens of shows about it and there is no way I have not seen the video. Yes all the shots came from the window.

    Why dont you conentrate on your Princess Dianna killing conspiracy and leave our crazy conspiracies for the lady who has 100 cats in her house.
     
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  16. DMD

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    Is there much to dispute the apparent mass of evidence that puts Oswald on that floor with the gun he bought? Or explains why he left when he did to where he did?
     
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  17. ellewoods

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    They didnt need to kill him to get him out of the way because like I said he would be out of office soon enough. You are of course right that he probably would have won realection but that still means he was out of office in 69. That isnt that far away. Especially when like I said the intrests involved where not going to lose contracts. So it is hardly rediculous.

    There were lots of assassinations in the 60's in the US. JFK, RK, MLK, Malcom X, Rockwell etc. It was a turbulant period of time obviously and it is no wonder taken in the context of the time that JFK was shot. Also lots of attempted assasanations, pretty sure Wallace was also shot in the 60's.
     
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  18. Craigo

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    Are you saying you can't see the video I posted?
    Ok the link is below:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZU_IbxMfCY

    For your information it shows almost frame by frame the lethal shot hitting him from the front and his head being jerked backwards. I don't know what government propaganda you've been watching but you need to check out some other sources.
     
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  19. ellewoods

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    I think even the conspiracy theorists believe that Oswald took shots from the window. I dont think anyone doubts that or that it was his gun. Some think that there were multiple shooters or that Oswald was put up to shooting Kennedy. If a conspiracy occurred Oswald being put up to it would be the more likely scenario.
     
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  20. Craigo

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    Ellewoods you're a good lad but you're talking ****e.

    JFK would have won next election by a landslide, even Nixon admitted that, so why do you think he would have been kicked out the following election? You're not making sense.
     
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