Match Day Thread Watford v Hull City

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Benjo said:
The goalscoring will continue to be an issue until we bring in defenders and fullbacks that can consistently contribute to progressive play. Ours rarely do, certainly not with any momentum or pace. The odd decent long ball from Hughes aside, we simply don't have those options available at the back at the moment and every player in front of our back line always has more to do than necessary as a result. That's why so much breaks down for us so often.

Look how many long balls Jones has overhit. Coyle takes the ball forwards but doesn't often make the pass. Macca plays it forwards often but providing Gelhardt drops deep for it. Hughes has a good pass on him but blows hot and cold with it. When they try and turn that screw we often end up wasteful.

You stick a couple of Odubajo's in this side and it transforms us. Bang a more prolific striker in there and it helps even more. Until we do that we'll continue to struggle with goalscoring as we'll have defenders who defend and not much more, leaving us regularly outnumbered and/or too flat when we try to attack.

Pandur's probably player of the season but still gets criticised for his distribution. It wouldn't even be a requirement if our back line had that side of the game in their lockers, which most other teams' do. We simply don't.
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In the stats convo i was talking about last night, I mentioned Kamara not beating a man and getting a cross in. He puts in an average of 2.27 crosses a game, which (after removing players who haven't played the equivalent of 5 whole games) puts him 10th in the team. He's a wide player playing in his favoured position, and frankly, that's not good enough.

Current wide regulars: Coyle averages 4.03, Gelhardt 3.23 and Macca 0.56 (although we know he's not a natural fullback, and is in there for his defensive capabilities, also his average will be brought down by the games he played CB)

Unavailable players: Belloumi 6.37, Giles 6.00 (but couldn't defend for ****), Millar 5.36.

He's also behind Puerta and Palmer.
 
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Christophalophados said:
In the stats convo i was talking about last night, I mentioned Kamara not beating a man and getting a cross in. He puts in an average of 2.27 crosses a game, which (after removing players who haven't played the equivalent of 5 whole games) puts him 10th in the team. He's a wide player playing in his favoured position, and frankly, that's not good enough.

Current wide regulars: Coyle averages 4.03, Gelhardt 3.23 and Macca 0.56 (although we know he's not a natural fullback, and is in there for his defensive capabilities, also his average will be brought down by the games he played CB)

Unavailable players: Belloumi 6.37, Giles 6.00 (but couldn't defend for ****), Millar 5.36.

He's also behind Puerta and Palmer.
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Thats the problem
Kamara doesnt play direct
He barely tries to dribble past anyone
He usually cuts it back, doesnt really do much

So its either tactical or hes low of confidence/just not good enough yet
 
bradymk2 said:
Thats the problem
Kamara doesnt play direct
He barely tries to dribble past anyone
He usually cuts it back, doesnt really do much

So its either tactical or hes low of confidence/just not good enough yet
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Kinda begs the question, if he doesn't like to do the things that wingers are supposed do, then why do we play him on the wing?
He seems to like running onto a ball behind the defence, so why not play him as a number 10?
 
Christophalophados said:
Kinda begs the question, if he doesn't like to do the things that wingers are supposed do, then why do we play him on the wing?
He seems to like running onto a ball behind the defence, so why not play him as a number 10?
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Nah
Hes our current best winger
That might not be saying much

But our team just feels full of non direct players that get in each others way <laugh>

Sooner the season ends and we stay up
I cant wait
 
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Christophalophados said:
In the stats convo i was talking about last night, I mentioned Kamara not beating a man and getting a cross in. He puts in an average of 2.27 crosses a game, which (after removing players who haven't played the equivalent of 5 whole games) puts him 10th in the team. He's a wide player playing in his favoured position, and frankly, that's not good enough.

Current wide regulars: Coyle averages 4.03, Gelhardt 3.23 and Macca 0.56 (although we know he's not a natural fullback, and is in there for his defensive capabilities, also his average will be brought down by the games he played CB)

Unavailable players: Belloumi 6.37, Giles 6.00 (but couldn't defend for ****), Millar 5.36.

He's also behind Puerta and Palmer.
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That's fair enough, but it doesn't mean we don't create enough or score enough because of Kamara. We've had the same problem for a while now and it boils down to how our general play doesn't work out - which is more often than not quite stifled by our unwillingness to progress the ball quickly and effectively. You can see we've been trying it more this season, but not having that inherent ability at the back it's the reason why we've often been so wasteful or lacklustre.
 
SW3 Chelsea Tiger said:
So not on the red button thing? I'm unable to access red button games on my laptop
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Amin Yapusi said:
Yes, red button. You have to watch it on mobile or tablet app. If you’re determined, you could download an android emulator and get the mobile app on your laptop from the google play store using that.
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Not being funny but that sounds a lot harder than (a) paying £10 and using a vpn or (b) buying a NOW TV daypass or (c) watching fawanews. No?
 
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watfords pitch is ****ing sublime
what ever they're doing, can we copy
 
Benjo said:
That's fair enough, but it doesn't mean we don't create enough or score enough because of Kamara. We've had the same problem for a while now and it boils down to how our general play doesn't work out - which is more often than not quite stifled by our unwillingness to progress the ball quickly and effectively. You can see we've been trying it more this season, but not having that inherent ability at the back it's the reason why we've often been so wasteful or lacklustre.
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I think its even simpler than that.
It's just our final ball is always so poor wherever/whoever it comes from.
Would this have been better if we had Millar, Belloumi, Matazo fit or if Giles had delivered like he should. Whi knows
 
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