That would be why SL has allowed Del to completely restructure/rebuild the accademy from the bottom up this summer then...
Yes but there would be NO chance of any stadium if we go down. All the accademy does is supply good players to other clubs....I don't see the big deal that you keep on about it. How many players play on a regular basis from the Accademy?? We need to be sucessful before we can keep or attract decent players....that's fact. As to Colin, not the style I like but knows this level inside out.....it will never happen though, most of our fans hate him and for that reason I'm not sure he's keen on us!
That's true, but it's not going to get better without real investment, starting with new facilities and finishing with some top coaches from the continent. I've watched a fair few of our academy products over the years and they definitely subscribe to the hoofball ideology. Honestly, I don't think McInnes should be too involved in the academy. What does he know about running a good academy? If we sell Pitman in January I reckon we can land some fantastic coaches and a youth director with that cash. It's completely insane that, given our geographical position, we've not invested heavily in youth. Anyway, on related news Di Matteo was sacked by Chelski! I wonder if he'd be willing to swap a bad night in Turin for a rain-soaked Ashton Gate...
Di Matteo was my first choice after Coppell......would be a great manager for us.........but it's never gonna happen. Spot on regarding academy, at the end of the day, it's just a shop window. Hasn't Crewe got a good academy? Look where they are.
The only important thing for the average fans is what happens at first team level.we pay our money to watch the first team not the kids in the academy. Every club is judged on the first team. As the above poster has said look at Crewe a great club for producing,but where are they in the football league.
Crewe Alex worked out over 20 years ago that they had to produce saleable young players to survive as a football club. They also realised that the small town which they represent would NEVER be able to sustain higher than Third tier league status. In fact they have been extremely successful in what they have achieved in that time. Bristol being the fifth (or sixth) largest city in England has different aspirations. We as fans have this blinkered opinion and have always thought of ourselves as a big club "in waiting". And as such over at least the last ten years, the club have ignored the basic fact that we need to produce first team members from our youth Academy. At long last, the club or perhaps more accurately SL has realised that and that must have been one of the major factors in appointing Derek McInnes as football manager. And if we are honest, there has been a significant change in performance from the under 21's at City. So a start has been made on building the club for the future. As for "the today", well it's not always as easy to turn things around at first team level as we fans sometimes think. Every other club is trying to do the same as us. And we should never forget the mess we were in in October 2011. It's not easy to rebuild a complete squad when at least 50% of them were on contracts through into this season and it is my honest belief that the major problem this season has been the inadequate performances of those who remain from Millen's days. Yes McInnes must turn the first team around but let's not forget what he has achieved so far.
Nothing as far as I'm concerned Cidered. It's all well and good having an academy, but the idea is to progress these young players through to the first team......but if we go down and these players are any good I can guarantee they won't be signing for us. It's no good coming up with a good idea to sell it in a corner shop. You want it displayed in a established and successful outlet.
You can look at Crewe yes...... But what about arsenal? I know they buy a few youngsters but they produce them left right and centre. Which is why half of them ends up in our league
I think the academy is a bit of a red herring to be honest....the idea is good but the result is either here nor there. The idea is to produce good English players through the ranks and progress them to the first teams. Yes, Crewe do it for a means of survival, but the real idea is so we don't have to always look abroad for cheap quality players. Too much is made from what Del is doing for ours, yes it's good, but not for the sake of relegation or the position we're in now...that's just pure Narrow minded & crazy. Concentration MUST be to stay in this division and progress.
No one can comment on the academy until at least 2 years. Yes Del is working from the ground up but it won't work overnight. Crewe do it as a survival and unless I'm mistaken crowds of 13k is not enough to sustain against teams in the Championship with almost half of them on parachute payments from the prem league. With FFP coming in we might have to do it to survive. Can't believe your all still arguing about it, **** sake if you don't like Del fair enough but instead of whinig on about told you so bollocks just support your team. I did not like Millen but did not whine about him just got on with supporting the team. All this ****ing crap about going down will ruin us, we were ****ed in 82 but we are still here!
That statement makes no sense whatsoever, I'm whining cus I DON'T want my team to go down, not just sitting there quiet and letting it happen like you. If it wasn't for us mouthy ones that whine and left it to you happy clappers, we would still have Millen....What the hell has any of this got to do with 82? I can get behind my team without sucking up to a manager that I feel is not doing the job that is expected. Wow, that's two days on the trot my head hurts.. Oh and what are you expecting to happen from the academy in two years?
Where does it say what I expect in 2 years time!! It says WE can't comment on something till its been given time to work, to see if it's improved or not! What are you belly aching about two days running? The trouble with you is your trying to make out your more intelligent than me by putting my comments down and trying to belittle me. Just because I mess around on this forum, don't think your better than me!
"Oh and what are you expecting to happen from the academy in two years?" Progress perhaps! but that doesn't fit in with your ' I want it all now philosophy' does it! Thankfully the majority of our fans as not as impatient as you and can see through our recent history that we now need to take a different path and most will accept that sometimes change needs to be allowed to go backwards to eventually go forwards. The vast majority of fans wanted Millen out so it wasn't down to you in any way. MOST of us appreciate the Del performed a miracle in keeping us up last year, MOST can see the players he was left with weren't the best, and MOST can appreciate that saying "why don't we get a decent centre half in" doesn't make them all queue up to get here. (THEY GET OTHER OPTIONS TOO! sometimes better!) I was pretty much the only poster on here who wasn't too keen on Coppell coming here and stated that I didn't think he would have the desire to be here! (Does that make me superior to you?)
"The trouble with you is your trying to make out your more intelligent than me by putting my comments down and trying to belittle me. Just because I mess around on this forum, don't think your better than me!" ROD this is down to onefor almost having to swallow his opinion when we had such a good start at the beginning of the season! Now he's making up for it big time with his 'I was right and that makes me considerably better then you' attitude. I still think that if Del is given time he will need to re-adjust again. Then it will be all quiet again.
By the way, regarding Coppell, I did say at the time, it was the type of manager we needed to progress I did say he was a risk. Reason was, most of Reading fans said he had lost the plot just before quitting them. I didn't see it as a miracle that Del kept us up...more like very very lucky. As for me coming on here to sing Dels praises for a couple of wins, you know the saying mate, "a swallow doesn't make a summer". Like I said, when we go seven games unbeaten, I will try to be the first on here to say I was wrong.. As to the academy....please answer the question.....what are you expecting from it? Yes, a decent one is required, but please don't expect me to sing Dels praises for that when we are sitting in a relegation position.
Here here agree on this,Del has a long way to go to get the majority of city fans believing he is the man for the job. This Season has been poor considering the squad he has at his disposel
Let me get this right.....If we lose, it's down to the rubbish players we have.....If we win, it's down to Del....even though we have rubbish players?
