Don't agree with bombing religious buildings, I know the arguments for doing it, but in my peaceful world I don't agree with it, they should be sacred places free from the evils of humans...
If you declare Building X something you can’t attack under any circumstances then you give an incentive to terrorists to utilise that. No point playing to a set of rules the other team don’t recognise. Just bomb everyone and get it done.
Seems to be quite a lot of 'Naan, naan, na nee nee' going back and fore across the border ... Coat please ...
Good news. There’s a “People’s Run for Palestine” in Brighton today so it should all be sorted by tonight.
I'm sure during the war (WW2) people hid in religious buildings, so I asked the question... AI Overview Learn more Yes, many Jews hid in religious buildings and other institutions during World War II. The Catholic Church, particularly in France, Belgium, and Italy, played a significant role in rescuing Jews by issuing false documents, lobbying Axis officials, and providing hiding places in monasteries, convents, schools, and other locations, including the Vatican. Other religious groups, including Protestants and Muslims, also provided refuge and assistance to Jews. Here's a more detailed look: Catholic Church: Many Catholic institutions, like convents and monasteries, served as hiding places for Jews. The Vatican, for example, provided sanctuary and assistance through organizations like Msgr. Hugh O'Flaherty, who helped rescue thousands. Other Religions: Islamic institutions, like the Paris Mosque, also provided refuge and help, including forged documents and hidden spaces within the mosque. Protestant churches and communities, like those in Le Chambon-sur-Lignon, France, also sheltered many Jews. In Albania, where there was a Muslim majority, over 2,000 Jews found refuge. Beyond Religious Buildings: Some Jewish individuals and families also hid in the homes of non-Jewish individuals and families, as well as in other hidden locations, such as attics, basements, and caves. In summary, Jews sought refuge in religious institutions, other institutions, and private homes, demonstrating the diverse ways in which people helped Jews escape the Holocaust.
I’m not doubting that but if the Nazis knew there was a church with a basement full of Jews they wouldn’t have just left them to it and the Jews weren’t using that basement to launch rockets at the SS.
Can’t attend. I’m sitting on the swings at the park tonight in support of Pakistan. The Indians need to get the message that we won’t tolerate what’s happening over there.
You honestly believe that every mosque, hospital and school in Gaza that have been targeted by the IDF have all been used as rocket launching platforms? ... you're even more naive/ gullible / blinkered than I thought ... shame there is no truly independent reporting / corroboration allowed eh? ... and yes I know - I haven't a clue because I only listen to lefty flag waving, humanitarian bullshit, all obviously anti-semitic, information sources... whereas yours are all absolutely legit and totally unbiased ...
You’ve responded to something I’ve not actually said but you’re having a soppy old tart senior moment again so I’ll respond more politely than it deserves. Yes it’s perfectly plausible that in a small area as Gaza is with the level of control and underground infrastructure Hamas had/have that every civilian building attacked had/has some link to Hamas, against or with the will of the owners but probably against in most cases. We’re talking a relatively small number of buildings despite what you’ve read in the Morning Star.
I think it's an interesting topic if we can take it away from Gaza and just look at the basic principles and morals of life. I get I'm probably very naive on my more sensible side - I put that down probably to the propaganda you are fed as a child, the goodies and the badies and hiding in sacred places. In my world you shouldn't attack religious buildings, but again in my world there shouldn't be war either. I do get a bit tired and fed up when we as a nation constantly refer to the war during my lifetime, and constantly refer to Nazi Germany. I'll be honest I hate it but it's our process of remembering and I have to accept that. With this week being VE Day 80 years on, it's to be expected and not forgotten, but that's where my thinking becomes at odds, because some of todays wars are caused by the modern day interpretation of history, you hear and read people referring to it constantly, it in itself is a form of propaganda, so it never leaves us. People still disputing lines in the sand on the basis of history, and the opposing sides trying to make it's own gains. I wonder if the Germans of today get tired of references to 1945 and before. Although an interesting fact, there are still 6 million people living in Germany over the age of 80, so I guess living memory is good for another 20 years. I think the last couple of years has brought a lot of shame on the human race (not just Gaza), also maybe a failing of our churches in the various religions in saying to our world leaders...enough is enough. The recent gathering for the new pope of all nationalities, it's a shame we can't bring that same unification to a wider perspective for all. A shame Pizzaballa didn't get in, everyone loves pizza...well except for me lol.
Looks like progress is being made in new ceasefire talks. US citizen Eden Alexander is set to be freed from captivity in the coming days. Not to be confused with Trent Alexander-Arnold, who is set to be freed from scousers in the coming days.
