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WAR! What is it good for?

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  1. FosseFilberto

    FosseFilberto Pizzeria Superiore and some ...
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    I've condemned Hamas' actions from the off - you in contrast have failed to show any shred of remorse, regret or sympathy for the deaths of innocents .. because they happen to have been born Palestinian ...

    ... but here's your chance ... go for it ...
     
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  2. Horny 4 Hamas

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    As the boy says, it’s a terrible shame Hamas brought this on them.
     
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  3. FosseFilberto

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    ... and a shame that Israel continues to flout International Law in the West Bank feeding the Palestinian armed resistance....

    Good stuff ... reckon we've covered it between us ...

    Here's to lasting peace and both a sovereign Israel and sovereign Palestine ... <cheers>
     
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  4. Horny 4 Hamas

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    Your words rather than the boy holding his dead brother which is rather fitting for this war and the Middle East experts to emerge from it.
     
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  5. FosseFilberto

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    You don't think he wants his own safe homeland more or less than any Israeli? ... your blinkers are well and truly superglued to your bonce and no mistake <laugh>
     
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  6. Horny 4 Hamas

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    You are, as usual, too ****ing thick to see the point. No doubt he wants to be safe. He blames your boys for his brother being gone.
     
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  7. Citizen Kane.

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    The official IDF report has stated that a unit was attempting to engage with a Hezbollah cell that had set up a position barely 50 metres away from the UNIFIL outpost, and had given UN staff there more than 2 hours to evacuate to a safer location before it engaged the Hezbollah cell in combat. The UNIFIL troops refused to leave and were effectively injured in the ensuing crossfire.

    Now, I know some on here (two posters in particular) will straight out reject this version of events, and I won't waste time or energy trying to convince them otherwise. I personally think it is a perfectly credible account of how events panned out.

    From my experience, it is perfectly common for Hezbollah to conduct operations and establish forward positions within eyeshot of UN bases, the latter does jack all about it because they get paid to wear blue helmets and tick forms on clipboards all day reporting density of juniper bushes on the Levant to some jobsworth back in Manhattan.

    And as I've said previously, if the UNHRC came out with a statement that the sky is blue, I'd open my curtains to double check before believing them.
     
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  8. FosseFilberto

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    I'm likely way more intelligent than you tbf if we were to go on IQ ... but I don't like to talk about it <whistle>

    The main difference is I have a broader more balanced view of the world that goes beyond my own culture and genetics ... and my experience is that the thickest people I've met in my 65 yeaes on this earth tend to be the bigots ... other than that I'm sure you are a stand-up guy ... and incredibly witty... at least in your own head.
     
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    Well if the official IDF report says it...<doh>

    ... and please forgive me if I'd trust an Independent Peace Keeper more than an IDF spokesman ... call it the law of invested interest...

    I'm such a cynic ...
     
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    I know you meant this tongue in cheek, but jokes aside, is it any wonder the UN is such a flaccid impotent mess of an organisation that gets literally nothing done and has zero impact anywhere in the world, when the majority of member states are not democracies, while 70% of its Human Rights Council have abysmal human rights records?

    Put aside everything about Israel and Palestine for a moment. Pretend that's all been sorted. Do you honestly think the UN is a force for good in the world?
     
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  11. Horny 4 Hamas

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    Unlikely.

    You don’t have a balanced view whatsoever. You’ve fallen hook, line and sinker for every bit of propaganda and get weirdly emotional about the most random elements of this war all of which just leads to you crying more about Israel while ignoring actual logic and data when it’s presented to you.
     
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  12. Citizen Kane.

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    I think you'd believe unquestioningly any report that cast Israel in a bad light, wouldn't matter who is saying it or where it came from.

    The Antiques Road Show could put out a statement that Israel is forcing Lebanese civilians to eat boiled old furniture, and you'd be falling over yourself like Vardy in the penalty area to post it on here within seconds.
     
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    A fair post ... and in answer to your last paragraph ... no ... the UN, ultimately are the police for the richest and most powerful nations ... and Police forces everywhere are the means by which the rich and powerful keep us mere mortals in line ...
     
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    Then you certainly don't know me very well <laugh> ... I'm the ultimate sceptic ... suspect it stems from doing 1984 for O'Level when it was still a date in the future ...
     
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    well my view is more nuanced that some on here but as i pointed out in my original post this follows a standard set in previous "incursions " so until someone independent gives some sort of justification i remain of the opinion the UNIFIL post was targeted deliberately by the IDF .
     
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    the rich and powerful don't send their troops in blue helmets to places like Lebanon or anywhere in Africa .
     
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  17. Citizen Kane.

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    Correct. Which is why the troops injured were both from Sri Lanka.
     
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  18. Citizen Kane.

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    If the UN was a police force, we'd have daily looting of shops, riots, mobs attacking migrants and weekly prison breakouts.

    The world would be absolute carnage.
     
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    No ... but they have sufficient influence to ensure that it's other, less powerful, nations who send theirs - which is why it is Sri-Lankan soldiers getting injured in Lebanon ...
     
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  20. Citizen Kane.

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    In fairness, I am intrigued and close to believing in the possibility that the UN exists to give the majority of the world the illusion of power and representation, when of course the real seat of power is the Security Council and that power is concentrated exclusively in the hands of the P5, who can all exercise a veto. The P5 also 'happen' to possess the largest number of nuclear arms in the world.

    So yeah, the UN is designed to keep its members flaccid but unaware of their flaccidness. Pun intended.
     
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