We've been consistent throughout ... you, on the other hand, have all the substance of the type of melt that can change football team allegiance at the drop of a hat ...
I don't mind having a reasonable debate about it. But Welshie has just come in here with his emo gifs, started acting like a tart and then claiming I can't handle it ffs
Anyway, getting back to the issue that was being discussed. It's not just the UN making these claims. The WHO have highlighted over 600 separate attacks on Medical staff that have resulted in death and injury. Medicins sans Frontier saying the same thing In the past seven months the healthcare system in the Gaza Strip has been systematically dismantled. According to OCHA, 24 hospitals in Gaza, Palestine are now out of service, while 493 health workers have been killed. Each medical centre or humanitarian delivery system has been or is being destroyed, to be replaced by less effective, improvised options. https://www.msf.org/strikes-raids-a...onths-relentless-attacks-healthcare-palestine
Use your brain mate. Do you think, on the basis of probability, that the UN are making it up because they have members like Eritrea, or that what they are reporting, which is backed up by just about every other agency on the ground, including the WHO and MSF, witnessed by people in the area and filmed by numerous sources and testified by actual doctors and medical staff working there are reporting is actually happening ?
Me and a friend were discussing this war yesterday, he made a point about how the level of ordinance that is being used by Israel seems to be far greater than the ordinance used by Russia. For example, a Russian missile can hit a Ukrainian apartment block and it's still standing, but Israeli missiles seem to flatten buildings in a shot. Are the Israeli armed forces using these Jericho ballistic missiles? Because they pack of a hell of a punch. On average it appears to be 30+ deaths per aimed explosion + an entire building destroyed.
The disparity between being able to take out one room in an apartment block in Beirut, yet flatten whole neighbourhoods in Gaza......
I see both sides, which is why I am shocked that any dissenting post on here labels someone as a bleeding heart wimp supporting Palestine or a Jew. On one hand CK is right, the UN commission is a joke as it has actual brutal dictatorships that summarily execute citizens regularly, no, daily in its ranks. On the other hand, I see the images on TV and it's true. According to Fosse this makes me a holocaust denier or something I think battle lines have been drawn in here though at the same time so, I think we all take things the worst way sometimes
The only people that won't be condemning Israel's actions yesterday are the very partisan pro-Israel supporters ...
Never mentioned the holocaust... My thoughts are much simpler ... just think you are a bit of a shallow twat ... no offence
They're not doing that in Beirut anymore. I am confused as to why they're bombing the **** out Beirut, they specifically said Southern Lebanon was the target
The battle lines in here are ridiculous, seems that no part of not606 can escape it lol I agree that some of the principles of appointeeship that the UN employ are questionable to say the least. To extrapolate from that, that the whole of the UN cannot be trusted when they highlight the atrocities that Israel are committing, is as I mentioned earlier, quite frankly a ludicrously dishonest position to take. (That;'s CK's position not yours) There's a pattern here, and it's any organisation that criticises Israel are immediately lablled as dishonest or anti-semitic, and that comes from the top with Netanyahu levelling those accusations.
Collective punishment ? they did the same in Gaza As mentioned, the ordinance is there to take out very specific targets. Yet almost the whole of the strip has been levelled.
^^^^^^ The strategy has been (and continues to be )very much aimed at making Gaza uninhabitable... and has worked ... the end game is however debatable...
22 people killed in central Beirut last night from an unprovoked attack without warning please log in to view this image Jeremy Bowen International editor please log in to view this image Image source,EPA I was in Beirut throughout the 2006 war and do not remember Israel targeting the centre of the city. They levelled areas of the southern suburbs, but in the centre we felt quite safe. So this is different. The question we need to ask is: What is their strategy and what are they trying to achieve? Israel says it is trying to return its citizens to their homes on the northern border with Lebanon, but the scale of what they doing suggests more than that. Israel’s tactical successes against Hezbollah have encouraged some to think that there is a chance to reshape the region by severely damaging or destroying all Israel’s enemies. This is an enhanced military operation – one that is likely to lead to a longer war and possibly even an occupation of southern Lebanon – and it is not clear how this is in the interests of Israeli civilians trying to get back to their homes. The Israelis will argue very strongly that they are trying to defend themselves, but what their escalation has done is inflame the whole region.
As I mentioned earlier in the thread. An Israeli intelligence document highlighted how they wanted to forcibly move everybody out of Gaza and into Egypt, offering financial rewards to a 'struggling Egyptian economy' for doing so. Egypt, knowing that this was an attempt to make permanent refugees and never allowing them back into Gaza, did not take the bribe. The document also talks about 'rehabilitating' Palestinians to see their oppressors in a positive light. Re-education programmes to 'de nazify' people and make them see Israel as a force for good. Brainwashing, the same as the Chinese with the Uyghur Muslims https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/2...poses-plan-to-displace-palestinians-to-egypt/ The document in full is here https://www.scribd.com/document/681...er-on-Gaza-s-Civilian-Population-October-2023
The battle lines there were drawn thousands of years ago, destroying each others cities and killing all the civilians is s.o.p. The only thing that's really changed is the weaponry. The only time they 'live in peace' is when someone else kicks the **** out of both of them.
