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WAR! What is it good for?

Discussion in 'The Premier League' started by Treble, Feb 11, 2022.

  1. JakartaToon

    JakartaToon Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Love the way that we think that if we say it’s not an escalation that we think that everybody else will see it the same way.
     
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  2. Sucky

    Sucky peoples champ & forum saviour

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    Remember guys.... Derfend your ****ree, save all the old peeps women and children.
    <laugh>

     
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  3. Sucky

    Sucky peoples champ & forum saviour

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    Erm.. I served in the cadets for 4 years thank you. A trained killing machine basically.
     
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  4. FosseFilberto

    FosseFilberto Pizzeria Superiore and some ... Forum Moderator

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    See the US is continuing to de-escalate the situation in the middle-east ...
     
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  5. PINKIE

    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    26,000+ Palestinians killed by Israel now

    The vast majority of them Women and Children

    Can you imagine if it was the other way around ?

    US would have dropped a nuke on them and claimed they were wiping out a rogue terrorist state
     
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  6. Sucky

    Sucky peoples champ & forum saviour

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    Dont forget unelected rishi dropping bombs on **** knows where for bantz.

    To De escalate things you know all reasonable and stuff
     
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  7. Treble

    Treble Keyser Söze

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    The family decided to head for the Ahli Hospital to the east of the city, hoping it would be a safer place to shelter.

    Wissam and her older child began making their own way there on foot. Her 6 year old daughter, Hind was given a place in her uncle's car, a black Kia Piccanto.

    "It was very cold and rainy," Wissam explained. "I told Hind to go in the car because I didn't want her to suffer in the rain."

    As soon as the car left, she said, they heard loud shooting coming from the same direction.

    As Hind's uncle drove towards the city's famous al-Azhar University, the car is thought to have unexpectedly come face to face with Israeli tanks. They pulled into the nearby Fares petrol station for safety, and appear to have come under fire.

    Inside the vehicle, the family called relatives for help. One of them contacted the emergency headquarters of the Palestinian Red Crescent, 50 miles (80km) away in the occupied West Bank.

    It was now around 14:30 (12:30 GMT): operators at the Red Crescent call-centre in Ramallah called the mobile phone number for Hind's uncle, but his 15-year-old daughter, Layan, answered instead.

    In the recorded phone call, Layan tells the Red Crescent staff that her parents and siblings have all been killed, and that there is a tank next to the car. "They are firing at us," she says, before the conversation ends with the sound of gunfire and screaming.

    When the Red Crescent team ring back, it is Hind who answers, her voice almost inaudible, drowned in fear.

    It soon becomes clear that she is the only survivor in the car, and that she is still in the line of fire.

    "Hide under the seats," the team tell her. "Don't let anyone see you."

    Operator Rana Faqih stayed on the line with Hind for hours, as the Red Crescent appealed to the Israeli army to allow their ambulance to access the location.

    "She was shaking, sad, appealing for help," Rana remembered. "She told us [her relatives] were dead. But then later she described them as 'sleeping'. So we told her 'let them sleep, we don't want to bother them'."

    Hind kept asking, over and over again, for someone to come and get her.

    "At one point, she told me it was getting dark," Rana told the BBC. "She was scared. She asked me how far away my house was. I felt paralysed and helpless."

    Three hours after the call began, an ambulance was finally despatched to rescue Hind.

    In the meantime, the Red Crescent team had reached Hind's mother, Wissam, and patched her phone line into the call.

    She cried more when she heard her mother's voice, Rana remembers.

    "She pleaded with me not to hang up," Wissam told the BBC. "I asked her where she was injured, then I distracted her by reading the Quran with her, and we prayed together. She was repeating every word I said after me."

    It was after dark when the ambulance crew - Yousef and Ahmad - notified operators that they were nearing the location, and were about to be checked for entry by Israeli forces.

    It was the last operators heard from their colleagues - or from Hind. The line to both paramedics, and to the six-year-old girl they came to rescue, disconnected for good.

    Neither Red Crescent teams in Gaza, nor Hind's family, have been able to reach the location, which still lies inside an active combat zone controlled by the Israeli army.

    We asked the Israeli army for details of its operations in the area that day, and about the disappearance of Hind and the ambulance sent to retrieve her. We asked again 24 hours later, and they said they were still checking.

    No war crimes here <ok>
     
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  8. PINKIE

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    Nazi state

    Systematically executing women and children
     
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    And ambulance workers. Remember all doctors/medics, UN staff, journalists, and aid workers are part of Hamas and must be destroyed.
     
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  10. FosseFilberto

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    Just read the whole article on the BBC ... heartbreaking.

    I get that hate breeds hate ... but soldiers should never be executing civilians, especially women and kids.

    Not sure how you define 'war crime' .. but this incident has to fall within any definition .. and I hope Biden and Sunak are badgered into commenting about this one specifically by the paps - the fact that those supposedly leading our country are still standing by with gobs zipped and continue to let this happen is deplorable, reprehensible and downright disgusting.
     
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  11. brb

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    Very selfish of you guys, do you not know the King has cancer and will be on the news now 24 fooking 7, have some respect!
     
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  12. JakartaToon

    JakartaToon Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    This is one of those incidents that could end up having a profound effect on the conflict once enough people hear about it and want to know what has happened to the girl and the ambulance that was sent to pick her up. The phone recordings and the interview with the Red Cross woman who was talking to the girl, until the line went dead are harrowing.

    People aren't going to settle for "we are checking" from the IDF for that long and the pressure that will be put on them to release information will only increase.

    Not sure how you can be so sure that this falls with the definition of a war crime, but regardless, I think it will be an incident that really will resonate with people in countries where the governments have been supporting Israel, and even if it turns out to be a tragic mistake, will heap pressure on Israel to agree to a truce/ceasefire.
     
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  13. Solid Air 2

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    the IDF seem to make a ****load of "tragic errors"
     
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  14. Archers Road

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    Poor old Charlie only just got his head on a few coins, and it could soon be all over for him...
     
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  15. brb

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    My personal view is he should have handed it to William anyway, hope they won't be expecting another State reception for another crowning, could have cut the middle man (Charles) out of all this nonsense.
     
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    Saf Not606 Godfather+NOT606 Poster of the year 2023

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    I see the rhetoric against the Yanks is already starting to pick up.

    The Houthis were asked several times and then warned to stop attacking commercial ships, which affects world trade. They ignored everyone so they’re now being hammered for it. They were attacking anything that moved. Attacking ships heading to Israel was just a cover story.

    The militias in Syria and Iraq are constantly attacking the Yank bases and have now killed their personnel, so rightfully, the Yanks are now smashing **** out of them.

    This is all on Iran. The only thing I see the Yanks are doing wrong is that they aren’t smashing Tehran. They should be. When this really kicks off people are going to lazily point the finger at the Yanks. Iran have caused all of this and they need to be held responsible for it.
     
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    They can have all the crownings they want imo, so long as they pay for it themselves.

    I’ll take the extra bank holiday though tbf
     
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    Saf Not606 Godfather+NOT606 Poster of the year 2023

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    As for Palestine. Let the IRA arse lickers into surrounding countries and just leave Palestine to the Israelis. It’s going to happen, anyway.
     
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    I heard the other day and I never realised this, they been carrying out these attacks for five years, so it wasn't just when the conflict started after the massacre, I hadn't known that, although I think you might have said something along them lines at one time, not that long ago.
     
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  20. FosseFilberto

    FosseFilberto Pizzeria Superiore and some ... Forum Moderator

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    This isn't Game of Thrones mate ... you can't just go handing out crowns ...

    Winter Is Coming ...
     
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