Hilarious. We are talking about the BBC that refuse to call what Hamas done as a terrorist act. Yet, they've just classed the Belgium shooter who didn't kill jews as a terrorist. Go figure. I've noticed by the previous comments you are another one who will always find a way to make everything the jews fault. That particular racism goes hand in hand with being a left wing voter in the UK. This thread proves it beyond doubt.
Yeah, that's what the Israelis are saying. Have they produced the evidence yet or are you just quoting them?
I never mentioned Jews at all. I don’t like the Israeli leaders, have nothing against the innocent Israeli people at all and like many want to see peace (very unlikely in our lifetime)
I’ve told you before look deeper than the governments there are people pulling strings with reasons to keep this gate and divide going……well I know u take what I say as a pinch of salt but more fooled you(that ain’t hard ie Covid) anyway here’s someone who is stating the same conspiracy theory so guess she’s just doing it for me too make me feel better about my lack of knowledge on all subjects you fking wish
Timings and responsibility Hagari said at 18:59 local time (16:59 BST) yesterday a "barrage of around 10 rockets" was fired by the militant group Palestinian Islamic Jihad - around the same time there were reports of an explosion at the hospital He said the IDF's aerial footage analysis showed "with absolute certainty" that the blast was caused by a "misfired" Islamic Jihad rocket, which was fired from a cemetery near the hospital Damage analysis Hagari said the "only location damaged" was a car park outside the hospital "where we can see signs of burning" - and argued Israeli strikes would've caused a more significant aftermath like "craters and structural damage" He also said there was evidence of the rocket launch failing because a propellent is still evident Time taken Hagari said it would be "impossible to know what happened as quickly as Hamas claimed they knew" When asked by a reporter why anyone should believe the IDF's version of events, he admitted Israel had been "fast to go to conclusions" in the past, but he says they had taken hours to "double check" they had their facts right He said their intelligence included: Confirming there was no IDF fire - "by land, sea or air" - that inadvertently hit the hospital Using radar systems to track the rockets fired, "from within Gaza", with a trajectory showing they were fired from a cemetery nearby Getting hold of communication between militants talking about the rocket misfiring (which we explain in more detail here)
Cracks appearing in their story already ? It will take an independent war crimes investigation to really get to the bottom of it, but for that to happen on the ground in Gaza right now is near on impossible Meanwhile, we know Israel commits war crimes, targets hospitals and schools, bombs the only route into Gaza for aid and medical supplies and continues to flout UN international court rules on war. Using white phosphorus against civilians is yet another in a long list of their crimes Amnesty International shares proof on Israel's use of white phosphorus in Gaza https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-eas...raels-use-of-white-phosphorus-in-gaza/3020340
The audio recording sounds pretty legitimate. The accents are spot on Palestinian Arabic and, so I am told by some Bedouin friends I'm staying with here in Segev, sound Gazan (for example areas such as north Samaria and the Judean hills have slightly different accents). But in this day and age with AI as advanced as it is, there is no way of ever knowing for sure it it's genuine and nor is it likely we'll ever know what really happened. Bottom line is 470 innocent people died. Knowing whose rocket killed them and how ain't bringing them back. Which is why this whole Whodunnit subplot is so pointless and the mainstream media fuels it because they know it is addictive. The time for investigations and enquiries will come, but it certainly isn't now.
Ordinarily I'd agree with that. But given the nature of this incident, the huge loss of life and the fact that the West are giving Israel the green light (plus $bns in weaponry) to attack Gaza, I think it needs an independent investigation, because it could change the course of further action if it's found to be a direct hit from an Israeli airstrike. The logistics of carrying out that investigation though, are of course fraught with problems. In the meantime, we really need a leader with some balls who can step up and try to engineer a ceasefire and just stop the killing. I'd hoped the US might be that broker, but Biden is a wet lettuce and is only there to bolster his mate 'Bibi', so thousands more will die.
... to some degree, I agree ... but in lack of any other independent analysis, I'd still prefer theirs rather than those of the protagonists ... both of whom are adamantly sticking to their guns that the other side is to blame ...
It really needs safe passage for UN and Amnesty to be on the ground in Gaza to investigate all of the war crimes taking place there right now In the meantime. 'Bibi' has just asked his mate Joe for $10bn worth of arms
I’m no fan of the bbc but surely the fact that both the left and right think they’re biased against them shows they are sort of impartial.
He also admitted that the Israeli Airforce was in active operations in the area of the hospital at the time of the blast ... but were using different ammunition to that which caused the explosion... Biggest problem I have is rationalising how one wayward rocket hitting a carpark causes that many deaths ... a toll which, apparently, is still rising ... Hamas etc have fired thousands into Israel and into built up areas, but I don't recall anywhere close to that number of casualties ever being reported from a single rocket explosion... Something sniffs a bit ... just not sure what yet ..
The UN and Amnesty have zero credibility. The former - globally. The latter is deeply unpopular in this region. This really has been the story of our times. The lavishly funded organisations set up to prevent conflict and suffering have singularly failed to do so on almost every occasion and haven't delivered a single article of their charter.
It's also odd given that Israel claim that 1/3 of all rockets fired by Hamas land in Gaza, that we haven't seen anything like this before.
Very much in accord with this ... I do sincerely believe that there was an opportunity for a negotiated peace settlement after the 6 day war. The arab states surely realised then that Israel, bankrolled by the US, could not be defeated by all out war ... but Israeli governments then, and since, instead embarked on a programme of illegal occupation, settlement and suppression... a programme that was always going to cause the situation we now have in the region...
Actually I dont hate anyone, not even you but that is because you are not worth the emotional effort required to generate hate
