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WAR! What is it good for?

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  1. KingHotspur

    KingHotspur Well-Known Member

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    The more I think about it, the more I agree with that line of thinking.
     
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  2. aberdude

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    the money spent on Israeli surveillance is unprecedented a fly couldn’t fart without it triggering the alarm bells
     
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  3. Welshie

    Welshie Chavcunt fanboy dickhead

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    Troops and equipment would have to have been massed near the borders, there is absolutely no way they could have not seen it in reality.
     
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    tunnels
     
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  5. Welshie

    Welshie Chavcunt fanboy dickhead

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    Yeah that explains like some ground troop movement. But these guys were flying over the border and even using boats according to Israel.

    How big are these tunnels?
     
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  6. brb

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    What on motorised hand gliders? <laugh> ;)
     
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  7. brb

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    Wind tunnels <whistle>
     
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  8. FosseFilberto

    FosseFilberto Pizzeria Superiore and some ... Forum Moderator

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    There was some spare equipment left over after the HS2 abort ...
     
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  9. Treble

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    So the Israeli and media PR has gone into full swing.

    If you're pro-palestinian you support terrorists.

    If you criticise Israel you're antisemitic.

    All I've heard on radio programmes and news from first thing this morning.

    Like clockwork as always after every major middle-east crisis.
     
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  10. aberdude

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    welcome to my Covid world fella
     
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  11. Citizen Kane.

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    Working with survivors from Kfar Aza.

    40 children found murdered, many beheaded, carcasses strewn across the floor. Almost the whole town was massacred. Harrowing beyond words. We haven't slept since we landed.

    Our family friend's son is still missing.

    We were also deeply saddened to hear that Vivian Silver was badly injured and abducted from Be'eri, another town almost totally wiped out. Vivian is a colossus in the peace movement, setting up a large grassroots organisation after the 2014 conflict to bridge political and religious gaps between the two sides. She was well into her 60's when she set it up and could have enjoyed a quiet retirement. But she didn't. She devoted every hour of her newfound free time to fight for peace. Although I never saw eye to eye with her on her political views, I have the utmost respect for her devotion to the cause.

    Anyone who thinks Hamas isn't part of the problem needs their head rattled.
     
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    Like I said yesterday this didn't start on Saturday, it will have been in response to events that won't have made the news.

    The thing is, it won't end with Israel's actions in Gaza. What does everyone think will happen if they kill every single Hamas member whilst flattening and killing more innocent ppl? All it will do is create more militants and terrorists in Gaza. So what does that mean, we now blame Israel because that was bound to be the cause of them flattening the most deprived and densely populated place on the planet?

    It's pointless. It's been done before and it doesn't work.

    The only way this will end is if the route cause is dealt with.

    The irony is that unlike Ukraine, it actually doesn't need military intervention. It needs diplomatic efforts by strong players and financial consequences for both parties. Let that sink in, to find a solution does NOT need military intervention. This what we're seeing now will do fck all to solve anything.
     
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    Liking your post seems inappropriate, but my sympathies with you and the families of those killed. Desperately tragic in every way.
     
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  14. FosseFilberto

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    Absolutely horrible mate - and I don't think there is anyone who doesn't think that Hamas is / are part of the problem... but sensible negotiations, like the ones that happened with the provos in Ireland, is the only lasting solution ... the air strikes in Gaza certainly aren't - they'll only serve to create another generation of young men willing to join Hamas to avenge those deaths ... and the spiral will continue...
     
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  15. brb

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    40 babies most beheaded, 260 people butchered in cold blood at a festival, what sort of sick teacher are you to find excuses for this massacre?

    How about you tell us what happens if Hamas the organisation you support were wiped out, what would happen, is there more of these 'brothers' that you previously referred to - because I certainly don't imagine Palestinian civilians carrying out such sick depraved acts.

    You keep pointing the finger at Israel, and I'll keep reminding you what sick 'brothers' you support, if they are the kind of acts above that they carry out.

    I wouldn't want to negotiate with those sort of brutal terrorist organisations, but it matters not, because the map will change, there is no way Israel and the US will ever allow this to happen again. Hamas will be eliminated.
     
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    of course they are but have you ever wondered why this division exists……that Vivian woman sounds like she has trying to heal divides and it cost her her life which is sad but honourable

    sad there’s so much hate in this world…….maybe the religious need to worry about this life rather than the one they think they’re gonna have after death

    just an idea init
     
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  17. brb

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    I don't remember the Provo's beheading babies, the provos also moved away from attacking civilians because it would lose support, so they focused on finance and buildings, only then did it work and the British Government sort an alternative to gain peace. The actions of Saturday will never bring anyone to the table.
     
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  18. aberdude

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    Both sides have caused atrocities dude…..probably sounds worse someone could be head a baby but blowing the fking thing into a million pieces isn’t a pretty sight either I suppose
     
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    I understand that, but no one is going to come to a table while atrocities are being commited, the only thing that brings people to the table is money, that is something we learned from the provos when they attacked the financial sectors.
     
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    Bought time instead of aiding Israel the supposedly peaceful nations should demand that this ****s sorted out for the sake of human fking decency at least

    How many fking years has this crap being going on because its religious people……you would think thy gods would come down and say wtf are you evil fking scum doing ffs…..did we not say peace love to all?????

    thick fks
     
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