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WAR! What is it good for?

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  1. duggie2000

    duggie2000 Well-Known Member

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    The End of Days when the dead rise up to reclaim the Earth from the living
     
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    The craziest part of all this is they are descendants of the original 12 tribes of Israel who left Egypt to form their own nation

    Some became Christian, some stayed Jewish and some became Muslims and now it is fundamentalist religion that drives them apart
     
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    Along with a portion of the Labour Party
     
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    Hand crafted artisan pale ale at £12 a pint only <ok>
     
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  5. Welshie

    Welshie Chavcunt fanboy dickhead

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    Sounds like a norwegian bar, minus the hand crafted part
     
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    Does anyone drink in those places? There’s a few in London that sell beer at (almost) those prices, which are surprisingly busy.
     
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  7. Welshie

    Welshie Chavcunt fanboy dickhead

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    Yeah, but I mean, you usually turn up to the place bordering pissed and drink one ale
     
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  8. Welshie

    Welshie Chavcunt fanboy dickhead

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    Israel asking Gazans to leave the strip through Egypt sounds very ominous
     
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  9. PINKIE

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    Thing is, whilst the west label Hamas as a terrorist organisation. International Law under the UN general assembly resolution recognises Palestinians right to armed resistance to what is an illegal occupation.

    Hamas doesn't exist in a vacuum, and it's armed wing exists as a result of decades of Israel's subjugation of Palestine and Palestinian people
     
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    Will check that later
     
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    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    That's what happens when you start three wars with the stated aim of exterminating your neighbours, and lose.
     
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    FosseFilberto Pizzeria Superiore and some ...
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    It a tragic terrible situation... the creation of modern Israel (something the UK was a key party to) displaced huge numbers of Palestinians from their ancestral homelands and without recompense ... any wonder they weren't entirely happy and decided to resist against it? ...

    Instead of ever really addressing that key fundamental problem, the West instead pontificates that Israel has a 'right' to defend its own territory whilst labelling Palestinian attempts to do likewise as 'terrorism' ...

    Thr old adage that "One man's freedom fighter, is another man's terrorist" couldn't be truer ...

    I despair at humanity at times ... but the real criminals in all of this are the politicians... two faced, self-serving hypocrites who hide behind the mask of seeking a better world whilst lining their own pockets, reveling in power and not giving a flying **** about human life and how many are lost due to their actions or failure to act ...

    Rant over <grr>
     
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    This ^^^^

    International law recognises Palestine's right to armed resistance against the occupying force

    The 'right to defend' does not apply to the illegal occupiers in the same way at all.
     
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    Well since they have not had any elections since 2006 which is when Hamas became the Govt i think you are making a bit of a stretch with that description .
     
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    Saturdays actions have consequences, afterall what did Hamas think was going to happen when they cold bloodly killed 260 citizens at a festival - that being only one of many areas they attacked.

    Regardless of who we think is in the right or wrong, if the attacks on Saturday had not happened, the hundreds killed since would not have happened (not on the scale we are now seeing).

    I know people might not like these cold hard facts, but anyone supporting Saturdays actions, supported a massacre of those very same people, because everyone of us on here knows without a shadow of doubt what the IDF reaction would be.

    As you say a tragic terrible situation, the result of butchery. I don't support Israel or Palestinians, I have sympathy for the latter, but it's like me having sympathy for Putins dislike of the EU, but it don't make it right to then go on and slaughter people, likewise it don't make it right for Israel to either.

    What I can't believe is that someone within intelligence didn't forsee what was going to happen, and those intelligience services have some serious questions to answer, including the Americans, I cannot believe they did not know, I'm very suspicious of the US end agenda in this.

    Likewise, what did Hamas think they were going to achieve from this, do they not care about the Palestinian citizens, what deeper motive was going on here, was it one of religion or was it one of land or another.

    Everyone is intelligent enough to know that Israel would go and attack the land your brothers, sisters, mothers, fathers etc live on or did the Terrorists just not care, because it's more about some kind of ideology, rather than actually being about the citizens who reside in Gaza.

    None of it makes any sense.
     
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  17. Welshie

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    Ben-Gvir is the Minister of National Security in Israel and also happens to be a hardline Zionist linked to Jewish terrorist organisations.

    Him and the Minister of Defence Bezalel Smotrich are two who have openly advocated for Palestine's complete destruction.

    If Ben-Gvir knew about this is the question and if they had a general idea why didn't anything happen
     
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    Seems to me someone allowed Saturdays action to happen because maybe as you say, it gives them an excuse for a complete destruction, but take no notice of me, I'm just a paranoid bipolar.
     
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    They were elected though.
     
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    Yeah they can now completely destroy and flatten Gaza and nobody will question because they can say it’s necessary.

    This might sound a bit crazy but I bet the likes of Netanyahu were secretly pleased Saturday happened.
     
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