CC - You make a very good point and maybe that is his level. My biggest problem is - whatever happened to the team that went to Swansea last season and scored 4 goals - OK, we let in 3, but we attcked and loooked as though we wanted to win!! Guru - I 'doff my cap to you' for such a profound statement. We do indeed need to 'stay strong' and let's make CR a cauldron of noise on Sat and cheer the team on from kick-off until the final whistle. PS - I hope the 'boo-boys' stay at home!!!!
No different then from most managers in the PL apart from the Wengers, Pellegrinis, Villas Boases etc. Which of the possible candidates being proposed to replace him can be described as a proven Premier League manager? CH's PL Newcastle were mid-table when Pardew was appointed, hardly proven failure. CH's Norwich finished mid-table last season, hardly proven failure. The case against him is just flawed from start to finish.
It seems to me that the argument for Hughton staying in charge is that he will turn it round if given time. What sort of time period are we talking about? If he does get us relegated then we stick with him to get us back up as continuity is the key seems the other case for keeping him. If people want him to stay and see him as doing a good job at the then it must be the players ( who he bought) are not good enough if we are not achieving with the system he employes. Do they need more time also? Just cannot fathom out the rationale TBH. Just looked at the last four fixtures and whatever happens I hope things start to resolve sooner rather than later
Who ever is in charge we have got to be safe by the middle of April or we truly are screwed. I look at how we are playing under CH and can't honestly say we will be safe with four games left? It was WBA at home on the penultimate week when we scraped home last season !
I've pretty much lost all faith in Hughton's ability to achieve anything long term at Norwich. I do find the celebrating at hi every perceived failure a little sick though. Like a bunch of snarling dogs round wounded bear. Part of me wants us to get thrashed every other week but get enough points to stay up the rest of the time to watch the brayers suffer That being said, it's probably the end of the road and we've got a nicer run of fixtures for which we need a confident team, comfortable manager and supportive fans to take full advantge. None of which w have under Hughton
The only stat that matters at the moment is we are quite good at home so i feel quite upbeat about the palace game .
Am I the only one who thinks that we were incredibly lucky to beat West Ham? The first half was the worst half of premier league football by a home team I think I have ever seen. Then Their keeper mucked up and let us back in. We were dead and buried up until that point. I also saw the Villa game at home and if we were still playing them now we wouldn't of scored.
Something is wrong somewhere. If we have improved (?) the squad and proven scorers are not scoring, is it the tactics or is it that they are not good enough? I find it hard to believes anyone on here does not want it to work for Hughton but things do not seem to be working out. You cannot see us going on a winning run at all. The next 3 games (2 away West Brom and Liverpool ), I cannot see us getting anymore than 3 points. He does not help his case with IMO with seeming lack of tactical change, puzzling substitutions (why not bring subs on for the last 10 minutes yesterday when we got a goal back?), not trying other options I.e Becchio, Hoolahan...etc) It's a gamble, do we stuck or twist?
I was very happy when he was appointed because of his record at Newcastle and Brum. So, yes, my opinion of him has changed. Even now I don't think he is a bad manager, but I think he is a severely limited one.
We lost on Saturday because of the individual errors. Johnson lost his man and Ruddy made another mistake. It is incredibly easy to criticise the manager when we lose but you can't tell me that we have not practised defending corners in training and that any one on this board would drop Ruddy even though his mistakes this season have cost us against Chelsea and now against Newcastle. Yes the manager picks the team and sets out the tactics but he cannot control decent players making mistakes as happened on Saturday. I think our home form will see us through and I also think we'll be fine this season. Whether CH is the man to take us from a club in the relegation dogfight every season to a stable mid table PL club is another question. A lot will depend on whether we can hold on to our better players like Fer and add some quality around him as I fear were he to get a knock we would then be in a whole lot of trouble.
Yeah, we scraped home by the skin of our teeth didn't we - it was just the seven places and eight points (plus a far superior goal difference) wasn't it?
Those who call for CH out, I wonder if they are the same people who wanted Worthy out, look where that lead Peter Grant, Glenn Roder ; League 1 near administration...........just saying
To be fair though, Worthy needed to go. The club was structurally unsound at the time, whereas now we are quite an attractive proposition to many an out-of-work (and quite a few in-work) manager.
When we win we were lucky, when we lose, it's Hughton's fault. Can't deny we were awful in the fist half of the west ham game, but came out in the second half better, scoring three goals can't all be down to luck? I'm not a positive person by any means, but I'd still rather support and wish things start going Hughton's way than be over critical and hounding him out. Also injuries haven't helped our thin squad, not that it's an excuse, just doesn't help matters.
We conceded two soft goals on Saturday. Most of the players seemed to be looking at somebody else to do the defending. There was no urgency or conviction and the defending players seemed like headless chickens. All this squit about "being behind the gaffer" and "we must take responsibility on the field" is just hot air. We have seen it all before - lots of soul searching (" we have let the fans down") but nothing changes. IMO CH has lost most of the dressing room and his tactics are too predictable. Captain Bassong now on the bench - why has he fallen out of favour when he has been hailed as a 'hero' by many in several games? Is he considered worse than Turner or Ryan Bennett or is there some behind the scene issues between him and CH?
I thought the second half of the West Ham game proved Hughton hasn't ''lost'' the dressing room? But I guess no one can be 100% sure unless you were in the dressing room. I think Bassong got dropped after his poor game at Man City and he hasn't really been at his best this season, brave decision to try something different imo.
I'm sorry you feel that way Chippy. I don't want Hughton out at the moment but I would never say somebody who did was a bad supporter - there is something not right about our club at the moment so I can see why some think Hughton should go.
A lot of issues being raised here, some of which seem valid others contradictory. In the latter category is the assertion that City must be safe before the final 4 games. That was supposed to be the case for the last 2 matches last season, except that city won them both. Oh, but that was because the opposition were 'on the beach'. In actual fact, City still would have finished 2 points above relegation even if they lost those last 2 matches. Nothing is certain in football. It's hardly surprising that the players were nervous in the first half against West Ham after the horror week in Manchester the week before. That made the second half turnaround even more impressive and it didn't start with the first goal, it started with the kick-off. I can remember many games under Lambert when City were outplayed in the first half and then turned it around in the second and he was rightly given credit for that. Why shouldn't Hughton get credit when that happens? In the end, however, it isn't what we think on this or any other board that will determine what will happen, it's the results that occur on the pitch. It's crucial that City stay in touch with mid-table safety and the Palace game is where that needs to happen, with Liverpool and WBA away after that. McNally and the board will be the judge of what, if anything, will happen as things unfold. I'm content with that.
