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Waggy

Discussion in 'Charlton' started by Miketyson2007, Aug 27, 2011.

  1. WWOCB

    WWOCB Active Member

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    He's a question for you all:

    Considering Green was a product of our youth academy (albeit he wasn't offered professional terms), are we allowed to be proud of having 'produced' such a fine player in much the same way as we're proud of our academy producing Waggy?
     
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  2. Miketyson2007

    Miketyson2007 Well-Known Member

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    Agree to dissagree BUT nice problem to have regarding Waggy and Green.
    I dont doubt greens quality but it seems that we go OTT about his quality`s while OTT being detrimental about Waggy.
     
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  3. WWOCB

    WWOCB Active Member

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    Let's be honest, if the two were combined we'd probably have the best winger outside of the Premier League <laugh>

    Wagstaff has blistering pace and a good eye for goal though his crossing ability is lacking.

    Green isn't necessarily very pacey, but has an IMMENSE cross, whilst also having an eye for goal too.
     
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  4. Franco5

    Franco5 Well-Known Member

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    I thought my assessment was pretty constructive Bob...

    He might go on and score another 10 goals this season and great if he does.

    However, I'd prefer him to provide 20 assists and not score a single goal. He is a winger after all and it is his job to create chances for our front men. Due to his obvious lack of end product in terms of his crossing ability he creates very little.

    If he can refine this fundamental yet essential element of wing play we will have one hell of a player on our hands.
     
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  5. The Rifleman

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    Rarely has a bad game ? You must be having a giraffe. I like Waggy but lets be honest he often does'nt turn up in games.
     
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  6. Bob_the_bolder

    Bob_the_bolder New Member

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    Fair enough Franco..you make valid points.I just think this kid seems to get a lot of clogg on here sometimes. I know for a fact that fans of other teams see him as a real threat and a very good footballer.I do agree that he lacks the skills and tricks of your stereo typical winger...But then most stereo typical wingers final ball have fans tearing their hair out!
    I do think the main reason he's finding himself in the team is because a) his commitment to the cause b)his boundless energy and non stop Running And c)Goooooooals!!! oh, and d) He bloody well cares for this club and its fans.
     
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  7. cafc4ever

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    I like Waggy the man, love his work rate, enjoy his goals, but he is neither a winger more a striker!

    Could be both, could be either but is a worldly progress at both. Read my match report on the bury thread for them
    ore of my thoughts of him as a striker.
     
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  8. Bitter & Malicious

    Bitter & Malicious Well-Known Member

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    Getting away from Waggy in particular, isn't it a fact that at every level of football from under-13s to the World Cup Finals, it is wingers who often catch the eye and are admired and feared by opposing fans as the danger-men, yet their own managers and fans who are more thoroughly familiar with their play week in, week out, can often despair of them and even denigrate these same players.

    My formative years as a junior soccer coach were the mid-sixties, the only decade in which England ever won anything and that was with Sir Alf's wingless wonders. I have to admit that ever since I have distrusted wingers as suspect, fellow-travelling pinkos, always likely to buckle when under pressure, the weakest link in the chain, "tanner ball-players", ball-juggling circus artists of purely ornamental value, etc, etc.

    My league winning junior teams were packed with industrious midfielders modelled on Nobby Stiles and Alan Ball, while potential Waddles and Hoddles were left snivelling on the touchline and only called on if we were at least three down.

    In fact I am probably largely responsible for the failure of the England team for the past forty years. A terrible admission but I feel better having got it off my chest to real football fans.
     
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  9. ForestHillBilly

    ForestHillBilly Well-Known Member

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    I mooted the idea ages ago that Waggy should be tried as an attacking midfielder, where his energy and non-stop running would be more valuable. A bit like Pritchard maybe. As a coach, Eddie, do you think you can coach a player of Waggy's age to cross a ball?
     
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  10. MartinhoCAFC

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    I agree I think Waggy is more suited to being a striker. Of course players are going to be inconsistent at this level, if either Waggy or Green were consistent then they'd be playing in the Premier League, we have 2 players who would get in just about every single other squad in League One so think any critics should keep the abuse down on them as I don't think there are any better options out there.
     
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