Match Day Thread Vs Fulham (H)

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I am not sure that Klopp sees it that way. I agree with you BTW. The performances of the front 3 have really dropped off a cliff. For me Firminho and Mane have been unrecognisable. Salah less so. But JK sees Salah as the one that needs to be rested. He will pick Jota but I am not sure which one he will drop. He definitely needs to break that front 3.

theres no H in firmino btw.

I think Jota will probably start. Might even go back to a front 4 but wouldn’t surprise me if Bobby dropped to the bench
 
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I am not sure that Klopp sees it that way. I agree with you BTW. The performances of the front 3 have really dropped off a cliff. For me Firminho and Mane have been unrecognisable. Salah less so. But JK sees Salah as the one that needs to be rested. He will pick Jota but I am not sure which one he will drop. He definitely needs to break that front 3.

Just cos he subbed him once doesn't mean much. My issue with klopp, and it is directly with klopp is he has relegated salah to a role 40 yards from goal and pinned him to the right wing.

The fact is he is a left footed player who needs to play inside.

It's crazy stuff. Drop the players out of form
 
Just cos he subbed him once doesn't mean much. My issue with klopp, and it is directly with klopp is he has relegated salah to a role 40 yards from goal and pinned him to the right wing.

The fact is he is a left footed player who needs to play inside.

It's crazy stuff. Drop the players out of form
So, in all honesty, why do you think he does it? Is he stupid, stubborn - or does he see things that we don't? I understand the logic behind the argument that we need to take a different approach so I don't need that repeating to me - I just wonder why people think he doesn't do it.
Klopp has worked wonders taking the club forward, and now the wheels have fallen off. But the circumstances are extraordinary, and the run of bad luck with injuries also. Perhaps anyone would have fallen off a cliff in a similar situation.
I don't pretend to have answers for any of this, but then I don't pretend to know how to run a football squad. Surely we have to wait out this season and see how things go next time round? Loss of faith in the manager, and the resultant criticism, is premature, imo.
 
So, in all honesty, why do you think he does it? Is he stupid, stubborn - or does he see things that we don't? I understand the logic behind the argument that we need to take a different approach so I don't need that repeating to me - I just wonder why people think he doesn't do it.
Klopp has worked wonders taking the club forward, and now the wheels have fallen off. But the circumstances are extraordinary, and the run of bad luck with injuries also. Perhaps anyone would have fallen off a cliff in a similar situation.
I don't pretend to have answers for any of this, but then I don't pretend to know how to run a football squad. Surely we have to wait out this season and see how things go next time round? Loss of faith in the manager, and the resultant criticism, is premature, imo.
Absolutely Saint......I'm hearing all sorts of nonsense, questioning Klopps ability, talk of major rebuild being necessary and players being sold to
revamp the squad, end of an era etc. etc..........and I'm hearing some of this ****e from people whose opinions I respect normally <yikes>
 
If we are here in 12 months time and the same problems, then you can start to question Klopp.

We lost the Champions League final, but Klopp went again and motivated the players to winning in the following season.
We came as close as you can get to winning the league, but Klopp went again and motivated the players to winning in the following season.

I think he has a good opportunity to use the lack of fans and injuries to help blame for this season. Van Dijk and co will be back and be a big boost to the team and hopefully ba signing or two.
 
Just cos he subbed him once doesn't mean much. My issue with klopp, and it is directly with klopp is he has relegated salah to a role 40 yards from goal and pinned him to the right wing.

The fact is he is a left footed player who needs to play inside.

It's crazy stuff. Drop the players out of form

We really don’t know what’s happening behind the scenes. Klopp cannot tell us all but there is something going on regarding the players futures. Lots of speculation about Salah and how his apparent welcome of Barcelona and Madrid’s interesting In him was followed by poor form from him. And friction between him and Mane. Speculation that Mane doesn’t go down for a pen because he knows that Salah will be taking it.
All unsavoury stuff which we will know more if Klopp tells us at the end of the season.
 
We really don’t know what’s happening behind the scenes. Klopp cannot tell us all but there is something going on regarding the players futures. Lots of speculation about Salah and how his apparent welcome of Barcelona and Madrid’s interesting In him was followed by poor form from him. And friction between him and Mane. Speculation that Mane doesn’t go down for a pen because he knows that Salah will be taking it.
All unsavoury stuff which we will know more if Klopp tells us at the end of the season.
And all probably a complete load of bollocks tbf. <laugh>
 
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If we are here in 12 months time and the same problems, then you can start to question Klopp.

We lost the Champions League final, but Klopp went again and motivated the players to winning in the following season.
We came as close as you can get to winning the league, but Klopp went again and motivated the players to winning in the following season.

I think he has a good opportunity to use the lack of fans and injuries to help blame for this season. Van Dijk and co will be back and be a big boost to the team and hopefully ba signing or two.
One could argue that we have already been here a lot more than 12 months and that the team peaked at Leicester on Boxing Day 2019. Up to and after lockdown resullts and performances fell away (from a ridiculously high level) to now and 5 home defeats on the spin. Fulham are a threat tomorrow!
 
If klopp beleived any one of those payers "downed tools" they would be out and not part of the "group"

end of.

no matter how much we needed them short term.

So forget the crazy theories.
 
I even heard it suggested that Stevie G. was a good shout having all but wrapped up the title in Scotland <laugh>

BAAHAAHAHAHAHA <laugh> <laugh>
 
I even heard it suggested that Stevie G. was a good shout having all but wrapped up the title in Scotland <laugh>

BAAHAAHAHAHAHA <laugh> <laugh>

I think that Stevie G will be a very good choice (even endorsed by Klopp in the past) when Klopp decides it’s time for him to go. I think Klopp will want to leave the club in a good position rather than in dire straits.
 
If klopp beleived any one of those payers "downed tools" they would be out and not part of the "group"

end of.

no matter how much we needed them short term.

So forget the crazy theories.

Although I agree that Klopp wouldn't tolerate it, his hands are somewhat tied too though. We have a named 25 man squad with lots of injuries included, who does he play instead?
 
I think that Stevie G will be a very good choice (even endorsed by Klopp in the past) when Klopp decides it’s time for him to go. I think Klopp will want to leave the club in a good position rather than in dire straits.
Klopp is contracted until 2024. IF Gerrard is still progressing with Rangers or elsewhere he MIGHT be on the long list to replace JK.

Winning the Scottish Prem. is worth next to nothing.
 
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Anyone watched much of Rangers? What's the style of football like?

Obviously, given its such a **** league, I'm not expecting Barca in their prime!
 
Although I agree that Klopp wouldn't tolerate it, his hands are somewhat tied too though. We have a named 25 man squad with lots of injuries included, who does he play instead?

I think we can already see what he thinks of keita for example. If mane was acting the **** he would be out, imo no question.

To think the front 3 are not speaking or actively fighting is nonsense imo it would not be stood for.