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Match Day Thread Vs Everton (A)

Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by Zanjinho, Oct 4, 2020.

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  1. Garlic Klopp

    Garlic Klopp Well-Known Member

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    Coote has been dropped to fourth official at West Ham this weekend. That is still to much responsibility for the muppet!
     
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  2. Tiresias

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    Wouldn't let him officiate at a blow football game.
     
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  3. Thus Spake Zarathustra

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    https://www.skysports.com/football/...rget-var-rules-in-merseyside-derby-says-pgmol

    Hahahaha!!! So he didn't forget the rules, and he knew he could send him off. So the PGMOL have a ref who reviewed THAT tackle, and didn't think it a serious foul. For information, here is the salient part of Rule 12 regarding serious foul play.

    https://www.thefa.com/football-rule.../football-11-11/law-12---fouls-and-misconduct

    SERIOUS FOUL PLAY

    "A tackle or challenge that endangers the safety of an opponent or uses excessive force or brutality must be sanctioned as serious foul play.

    Any player who lunges at an opponent in challenging for the ball from the front, from the side or from behind using one or both legs, with excessive force or endangers the safety of an opponent is guilty of serious foul play."

    So, PGMOL have on their hands at least one official, Uniturd-supporting Coote, who either doesn't know the rules, or sees a player do all of the above and doesn't consider it serious foul play. No wonder they've flip-flopped all day. So this is what they've decided is the least bad result - the ref knew the rules regarding VAR, but didn't know what was serious foul play/ was blind/was bent/was all of those things. But at least one thing has come out of it - the frigging ****shafts on the Prem board pulling bogus rules out of their arse that said you can't be sent-off if you foul somebody who is offside were terminally, mongally wrong. :emoticon-0136-giggl
     
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  4. Thus Spake Zarathustra

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    Uniturd-supporting Coote was running around with a ****-faced grin on him all last night when he officiated at Leeds. Think that shows you how embarrassed he is at his incompetence and what the PGMOL REALLY think of it. :emoticon-0112-wonde
     
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    That's a stupid thing for anyone to say. This is from people who don't know or care about football and just use it as an excuse for tribal warfare.

    Incidentally, this is from the Sky report:
    Klopp did not say that. He said he thought it was a penalty until he realised that Virgil had been given offside.
     
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  6. Garlic Klopp

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    Jordan Pickford finally comments on the VVD tackle!


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  7. Zanjinho

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    That's not him, arms are too long!
     
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  8. Jimmy Squarefoot

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    Given that Pickford can't be retrospectively punished, I do hope he gets his just deserts.
     
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  9. Solid Air 2

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    his just desserts were to be sent off at the time and since that didn't happen it is all done & dusted .
     
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  10. Jimmy Squarefoot

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    Nope. He has done this idiotic sh*t in the past and he clearly hasn't learned from it.
     
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  11. Solid Air 2

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    makes no difference this incident is closed and that is that .
     
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  12. Jimmy Squarefoot

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    You're right. It won't bring VVD back any sooner. But these challenges need to be banned and dealt with severely. It's about protecting players and preventing these potentially career ending challenges.

    Players get injured all the time - I have zero issues when a player goes in whole heartedly, intent to win the ball and tries to do it legally. Sometimes you get lucky, sometimes you don't. That's life.

    But not when you have two feet in the air, studs showing, feet are knee level, zero control, and then using the scissoring action. Not only this - the player in question has done this before - and has shown his reckless behaviour a number of times.

    I have said this many times and I will say it even if a Liverpool player does it (this is why I never celebrated the Carra tackle on Nani, or Kuyt in the Derby). These challenges are not on.
     
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  13. Tobes

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    When was this exactly?
     
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  14. Jimmy Squarefoot

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    The Croatia game is one example. There was a challenge on Delli All as well (not as bad but still bad).

    I'm not saying he went out to injure VVD on purpose - I think he has a fundamental flaw in his technique which needs to be addressed.
     
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  15. Solid Air 2

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    They are and the punishment is a 3 match ban for serious foul play .
     
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  16. Jimmy Squarefoot

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    3 match isn't enough for these challenges! Thats the point!
     
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  17. Solid Air 2

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    that tackle fits almost perfectly one of the examples which define what constitutes serious foul play therefore according to the laws of football it is .
    Quite why you get sent off for "putting your hands on his face" constitutes violent conduct is beyond me particularly since ut often the chest not the face anyway .
    Oh and as Diego said the deliberate tipping of player in the air is potentially far more dangerous which is why Rugby outlawed it years ago .
     
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  18. Tobes

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    I don’t remember either tbh. Personally, I just think he’s a bit thick. Normally I’m sat right behind him for 45 minutes every fortnight, and the bloke isn’t wired up right imo. He talks to himself and squirts water in his face every 10 minutes.

    I think what happened last week - and we must remember we’re talking split second decisions here - he saw the ball heading towards Van Dijk, he went out anticipating a shot and shaped to do his usual starfish block. Van Dijk didn’t control the ball and it ran loose, Van Dijk stretched for it, and Pickford launched towards the ball with his left leg, Van Dijk doesn’t get to the ball either and his stretched right leg plants in the turf. Pickford misses it as well but he’s off the floor and his legs wrap around Van Dijks right leg and the damage is done.

    There was no intent to hurt him, but it ended up an extremely clumsy lunge for the ball, and of course the awful injury.
     
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  19. Jimmy Squarefoot

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    I agree as well - I don't think the intent is there but it's technique that really needs to be addressed. I get GK's need to make themselves big but this doesn't excuse the scissor action at the end.

    How's your new GK? Potential for him to be the new starter any time soon?
     
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  20. Tobes

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    Don’t agree. 99 times out of 100 there’s no damage done there, and let’s be right, the only reason we’re still talking about this is due to the injury. The injury doesn’t make the actual challenge any worse, it’s still a sending off and a 3 match ban. We’ve all seen far worse challenges than that, where there’s been no injury.
     
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