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It was all necessary. Borrowing our way out of debt is/was a dangerous fantasy. France lost it's AAA rating, even the US did, Germany was still in recession last year. If the Tory cuts were so "brutal" then why are Labour promising even more cuts if they get in? Borrowing to sustain unsustainable growth is what put us in this situation in the first place. You say Gordon Brown was leading us into recovery, but isn't this the same guy who was responsible for this country operating a huge deficit before the crisis.

 

HSBC are threatening to move out out London? Good riddance lets hope account holders in the UK vote with their pockets, and dump on them and move to other UK banks.............

 

Lib Dems on 9 just ahead of the mighty Greens on 5?................

 

I wonder what the SNP are in Scotland and Plaid in Wales compared to the other parties

 

SNP are the heavyweights of Scottish politics Musty.
Plaid are lightweights but I'm hoping as a result of Leanne Woods appearances on the debates that she has improved their standing in Wales. A strong Wales needs a very strong Plaid.

 

So it was necessary to cut public spending to the bone, decrease wages to over £1,300 in real terms, raise VAT to 20%, skyrocket poverty levels and as a result increase debt to over £1.5 trillion and borrow over £500 billion, all this while subjecting millions to either two low paid part time jobs or slavery 0 hour contracts, all why they gave themselves a £100,000 tax cut.
Do you think it was worth it?

 

I meant in opinions polls the number of seats the SNP and Plaid will win

 

"Military intervention/war, call it what you want, but Cameron was cheerleading for military intervention in Libya in 2011 and the consequences are still being heavily felt in the Middle East."

What a ****ing joke of a sentence. So it was Cameron's "cheerleading" which caused all this **** in the Middle East?
The fact religious lunatics are running all over the former state of Iraq cutting people's heads off might have something to do with the Labour Party's Iraq war and the power void they left behind.
It seems you have a lot to learn concerning "actions and consequences".
These consequences are a lot more ****ing serious than some pissed off students (who are getting a better deal now than they were or would have got under the Labour party anyway!).

"Regarding the rest of your rhetoric, do you always make so many assumptions and false conclusions? Try dealing in the real world for a change and stop jumping two steps ahead of yourself with your interpretations of what people think."

I have made a false conclusion somehow? You are attacking the Lib Dems and the Tories. I know you can't vote SNP. So that leaves Labour, Plaid, UKIP or the Greens.
Why don't you have the nuts to tell us which you support if you don't wish to be misinterpreted.
Or are you one of these who hides behind "they're all the same, what's the point"?

"Your OP is about Lib Dem pledges at the current election. "You know it makes sense" are your own words. I'm saying that the Lib Dem pledges count for jack **** because the harsh reality is that your party will be decimated at the next General Election."

"...the Lib Dem pledges count for jack ****"....wrong again. The Lib Dems got 75% of their manifesto turned into policy off only 23% of the electorate's votes and only 50 or so seats. If they had won the election and gone back on a pledge you'd have a point, but as it is? the return the Lib Dem voters got for their support was an outstanding result...which is why the red and blue teams want to **** them over, they are not fussed on sharing the power.

"IT HAS LOST THE TRUST OF THE VOTERS IT HAD IN 2010
That is the harsh reality.
You can get the violins out and list all the "achievements" but no one gives two tosses because it looks like you will now even finish below the Greens.
VOTE LIB DEM? 93% OF THE BRITISH ELECTORATE WILL REJECT YOUR PARTY ON MAY 7th"

So what. They did the right thing. If the British voter is too thick to realise that so be it.
Why would you get so much pleasure out of the Lib Dem demise anyway?
Grow a set of bollocks and tell us what you believe in, who you will vote for, some ideas/solutions for the complicated problems our society, and most importantly our children's society, faces

I know full well the British public will vote for the bullshit they're fed by the media and the 2 major parties. I am putting forward the Lib Dem case on this thread in the hope that some people will be influenced by it, not because I think they can win the election.

 

The Lib Dems are now so desperate they have to post on football forums to win votes. Desperate measures in desperate times. If you create a thread trying to impose your views on others then expect a great fall. A starting point would be to not crap on your own voters as you have done since 2010. The polls clearly show the shocking position you are in since the heady days of 2010:

http://may2015.com/category/poll-of-polls/

The 2015 Election will be the time that the Lib Dems have to eat their humble pie - and it'll be a whole one. They are still in the zone where they are losing votes because of their actions since being in coalition with the Tories. Until they are out of that zone they are going nowhere.

A learning point for yourself is that if you're trying to influence people and win votes steer away from made to suit conclusions, your lecturing and your foul mouthed tirades I thought you're supposed to be trying to win votes, not alienate voters.

Do you want some cream?

 

Don't know about Plaid. 3-5 seats at best I think. SNP are projected to go from 6 seats at the last election to 53-54 seats and destroy Labour.

 

"What a ****ing joke of a sentence. So it was Cameron's "cheerleading" which caused all this **** in the Middle East?

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The fact religious lunatics are running all over the former state of Iraq cutting people's heads off might have something to do with the Labour Party's Iraq war and the power void they left behind".


blair was a puppet for the one percent and they played him and payed him well>>>>>>>>>>>so it doesn't matter what colour team was "in charge" at the time of incident

 

Yeah. I knew you didn't have any bollocks
Always fun to watch you confirm it though


On this forum I have seen the case put forward for the Labour party, UKIP and Plaid Cymru over and over again but I don't remember you calling anyone desperate.
Funny that

As you haven't the bollocks to tell us who gets your vote I'll have to assume you're a Labour voter as that's what your views are consistent with.
So you can shut the **** up about principles as your party has;
- ditched Socialism
- continued Thatcherite policies during the 13 years of government
- got this country involved in 3 wars. At least 2 of which were utterly disastrous. Such a lot of blood on their hands
- sucked up to the Murdoch press
- lied to the public (especially on Iraq)
- overspent which meant that when the recession hit such cuts were necessary (and are still necessary in the next parliament) just to steady the ship!
- did very little for Wales despite our seemingly unconditional support for the Labour party


It's only this rigged 2 party system that prevents Labour having to face the consequences of their actions.

 

wow huge vote for the SNP, I see they are ahead in 3 marginal seats following the most recent polling however polls are just that,

Hung Parliament, CON 273(+4), LAB 268(-3), LD 28(-1), SNP 55(nc), UKIP 4(nc)

be a very interesting result

 

While stitching a cut on the hand of a 75 year old farmer, whose hand was caught in the squeeze gate while working cattle, the doctor struck up a conversation with the old man.

Eventually the topic got around to politicians and their role as our leaders.
The old farmer said, "Well, as I see it, most politicians are 'Post Tortoises'.”
Not being familiar with the term, the doctor asked him what a 'post tortoise' was.

The old farmer said, "When you're driving down a country road and you come across a fence post with a tortoise balanced on top, that's a post tortoise."

The old farmer saw the puzzled look on the doctor's face so he continued to explain.

“You know he didn't get up there by himself, he doesn't belong up there, he doesn't know what to do while he's up there, he's elevated beyond his ability to function, and you just wonder what kind of dumb fool put him up there to begin with."

 

agree with all politicians are muppets, well ours seem to be anyway especially our PM

 

Bang on cue, there you go, jumping to your own assumptions, telling people what they think. You couldn't make it up.

Looks as though you may even have a chance of being the next Lib Dem leader: http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/election-2...k-clegg-labour-storms-into-contention-1498040

The Lib Dems: Desperate times, desperate measures, desperate people

 

You are hilarious

You haven't got the brains to debate any of the substance
You haven't got the bollocks to state who you'll be voting for.
You mock me for expressing a political point of view on a football forum yet that is exactly what you are doing, only in a cowardly way.

...but thank-you anyway for giving me the opportunity to demonstrate the hypocrisy, the utter vacuousness and the downright lies of those who seek to hang the Lib Dems for simply doing the right thing.

 

Where in your OP do you list a series of conditions that you must satisfy before commenting on this thread? Where does it say I have to state who I will be voting for? Where does it say that I have to do as you say?

You can't handle it because the Lib Dems are going to be taken to the cleaners at the polls. It doesn't matter what you state in your manifesto - BECAUSE NO ONE BELIEVES YOU. YOU HAVE LOST THE TRUST OF YOUR OWN VOTERS AND YOU HAVEN'T REGAINED IT.

You may not like to hear it, but those are the facts and there's nothing of any significance you can do about it before May 7th to change it. It doesn't matter whether I vote for the raving loonies, the far left, the far right, BNP, UKIP, the Taxpayers Alliance or Uncle Tom Cobbley et al - THOSE ARE THE FACTS.

 

Everyone's manifesto is insignificant as there will be a hung Parliament. It's appalling that Labour and the Tories are conning everyone into thinking they can win an outright majority when questioned on the validity of their manifestos. We could end up with no government because SNP,Plaid,Greens will unite to block the Tories and Labour if needs be.