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Discussion in 'Swansea City' started by Terror ball, Apr 22, 2015.

  1. PGFWhite

    PGFWhite Well-Known Member

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    You may think it is complete guff - but the polls show that the majority of the British electorate totally disagree with you.

    In answer to your direct question: If Clegg had any principles he would have refused to accept power with the Tories on that basis. Instead he shat on all those who voted for him - and people haven't forgotten. No money to fund tuition fees? Humbug, there's always enough money to fight a war.

    You can bury your head in the sand as much as you want. You can spout what the Lib Dems have "achieved", even though it is the Tories who are in power and are using the Lib Dems as pawns. But the harsh fact is that the Lib Dems are going to have a good thrashing at the polls - and it will be fully deserved.
     
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  2. Monty Fisto

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    What choice did the Tories have, the country was losing £160Bn a year (£500m per day) when they took over. Either borrow or go bust. What they have done though is to halve our deficit. To reduce debt first we need to eliminate the deficit. In the near future just the yearly interest repayments on the national debt will be more than the entire education budget.
     
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  3. ValleyGraduate12

    ValleyGraduate12 Aberdude's Puppet
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    They slashed public spending on a brutal scale (started a war between the public and private sectors) so that they didn't have to borrow more. That backfired spectacularly as they did end up borrowing far more than what Labour did during the peak of the financial crash.
    I am not a Labour voter, never have been and never will be as they are the same as the Tories, but, the fact is that the economy had began to recover under Labour, who emptied the treasuries pockets to SAVE the banks. The Tories came in, allowed the bonuses to remain (as did Labour before being voted out) and plunged Britain back into a double dip recession and the loss of Britain's AAA rating.
    The economy hasn't improved outside the city of London, jobs haven't been created (Tory spin would have you believe that it's okay for people to be subjected to slavery on 0 hour contract, and now Iain Duncan Smith wants to rename these contracts to make them sound friendlier), debt has increased beyond imagination, poverty has gone through the roof and wages have been decreased by over £1,300 a year in real terms under this lot, but hey, at least they gave themselves a cushy £100,000 tax cut.
     
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  4. ValleyGraduate12

    ValleyGraduate12 Aberdude's Puppet
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    Terror, this seems more active than the other election thread so I've stickied this one <cheers>
     
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  5. DragonPhilljack

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    This has to be the most candid, truthful and factual statement on this thread regarding the state of our leadership and country, I couldn't agree more with every bit of the above, you should send a copy to every party leader, and also mail copies to all the main tabloids, most right minded, head out of the sand folk would salute you sir................<ok>
     
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    Another sound post, only the Lib Dems would snuggle up with the Tory scum, that should tell you all you need to know regarding their principles....<ok>
     
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    Indeed. besides I want this thread running when the results come in and the Lib Tory arse lickers, get stuffed to breakfast time...........<cheers>
     
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  8. Matthew Bound Still Lurks

    Matthew Bound Still Lurks Well-Known Member

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    They and the rest of the political parties have no principles , it's the odour of power that attracts them . A point about Cameron stating how much he admires and wants to protect the NHS ," Hospital chief executives now earn an average of around £164,000 with salaries of up to £260,000 for those at the largest trusts, . Around 400 senior staff working in NHS quangos earn an average of around £120,000.Average pay for senior NHS managers has risen by six times the rate of increase for nurses in the last year .. but who suffers the cuts , the poor nursing staff at the sharp end , under paid and overworked ".
    if reading that makes you feel the need for emergency treatment don't bother you'll probably die in an ambulance waiting outside for a bed .
     
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    I don't believe a word any of them say.

    They are all out to feather their own nests.
     
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  10. Terror ball

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    How immature you are.

    "If Clegg had any principles he would have refused to accept power with the Tories on that basis."
    So if Plaid or SNP support a Labour government they "don't have any principles" in your book? If all of the parties behaved that way after the last election, or after this, the country would be ungovernable. You'd cut your nose off to spite your face because of all that hatred you have for the Tories....but I bet you voted for the Thatcherites of New Labour didn't you. Principles <laugh>

    "Instead he shat on all those who voted for him - and people haven't forgotten."
    "He" (personality politics don't you just love it...it's good to have a face to aim all that spite at huh?) delivered 75% of the manifesto we voted for...not a bad outcome for a party with 23% of the vote and 50 or so seats.
    I guess that if Labour do a deal after this election and accept anything that wasn't on their manifesto they will be "****ting on everyone who voted for them" yes? Grow up.

    "No money to fund tuition fees? Humbug, there's always enough money to fight a war."
    I'm sorry, which war did they find money for? That was the Labour Party. By the way, how much did they spend on Iraq and Afghanistan and the former Yugoslavia?

    "You can bury your head in the sand as much as you want."
    The only people burying their heads in the sand are the people who deny the very real financial trouble we find ourselves in.
    If cuts weren't necessary why is the Labour Party committed to cuts over the course of the next parliament?
    It seems that some believe that the government that took over in 2010 (inheriting a yearly deficit of £160 billion) should have borrowed £200 billion+ the following year....£160bill to pick up the tab and another £40bill + to generate growth. After all, it's easy isn't it? Spending £40 bill in such a way that generates tax receipts of £41 bill +
    Anyone slagging off those who have done a good job have any ****ing ideas of their own on how to achieve that? Try and include detail if you're going to have a go.


    "But the harsh fact is that the Lib Dems are going to have a good thrashing at the polls - and it will be fully deserved"
    Well, a nice cheap thrill for you. Enjoy.
    What do the people who left us with a £160bill yearly shortfall deserve? Re-election? <laugh>
     
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    So there's no hope?
     
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    Anyone watching Question Time?

    It sounds like a fair amount of you need to vote for the Green Party.
    They are promising no austerity, increased pay in the public sector and 1 million extra jobs in the public sector, paid for by a crackdown in tax avoidance by individuals and multi-nationals coupled with higher taxes...



    Sounds great doesn't it?
    Got a big round of applause.




    .....the IFS described their plans to raise £200b from tax avoidance and wealth taxes as "laughable if they weren't playing into a wider narrative that there's a magic money tree that we can pluck at will"
     
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    Hell that took you long enough to work out, welcome to the real world. The Only hope is a revolution, or radicle change.............<ok>
     
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  14. Terror ball

    Terror ball Well-Known Member

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    You need to get real mate.
     
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    Hardly think this a playing into any narrative other than total greed, the multi nationals have been syphoning off tens of £ billions for decades, they have never paid their fair share of ill-gotten gains, I would love to see them shaken down, for the way they ruin the beautiful planet too, life will go on far better without them..............<ok>
     
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    I need to get real? ....................<laugh>
     
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  17. PGFWhite

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    Military intervention/war, call it what you want, but Cameron was cheerleading for military intervention in Libya in 2011 and the consequences are still being heavily felt in the Middle East.

    Regarding the rest of your rhetoric, do you always make so many assumptions and false conclusions? Try dealing in the real world for a change and stop jumping two steps ahead of yourself with your interpretations of what people think.

    Your OP is about Lib Dem pledges at the current election. "You know it makes sense" are your own words. I'm saying that the Lib Dem pledges count for jack **** because the harsh reality is that your party will be decimated at the next General Election.

    IT HAS LOST THE TRUST OF THE VOTERS IT HAD IN 2010

    That is the harsh reality.

    You can get the violins out and list all the "achievements" but no one gives two tosses because it looks like you will now even finish below the Greens.

    VOTE LIB DEM? 93% OF THE BRITISH ELECTORATE WILL REJECT YOUR PARTY ON MAY 7th
     
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  18. PGFWhite

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    A betrayal indeed, but fair play to Nick, he made a great song about it................... <laugh>

     
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  19. Matthew Bound Still Lurks

    Matthew Bound Still Lurks Well-Known Member

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    No hope of a radical change in how this country is managed , I've been around long enough to have experienced the merry go round of politics Wilson, Callahan ,Thatcher , Blair, etc act and the one truth is that man kind is immoral and therefore it follows that politicians have the same attributes .No one party can take the moral high ground . I used to be very much interested in politics especially during Thatchers reign but seeing what Blair did to this country only shows how morally corrupt the whole political establishment is .
     
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    with politics full of lies, corruption and thee English queen bee and family sucking us dry>>>>>>>>>nothing will change, why would they want change, they have it all tucked up good and proper

    your vote makes no fking difference so why bother eluding yourselves
     
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