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  1. Skylarker

    Skylarker PL High Commissioner

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    Strongest you can buy over the counter are nurofen plus and they contain 12.8mg of codeine in each tablet.

    Most countries you'd need a prescription for that amount of codiene.

    Best thing for pain tho. Completely rids most pains.
     
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    Red Hadron Collider The Hammerhead

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    I can think of better pain killers <whistle>
     
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  3. LuisDiazgamechanger

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    SNAIL?

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  4. Red Hadron Collider

    Red Hadron Collider The Hammerhead

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    I can think o

    WHAAAAT??? <yikes>
     
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  5. LuisDiazgamechanger

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    I know some people use snail water to heal wounds.
     
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  6. Red Hadron Collider

    Red Hadron Collider The Hammerhead

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    Snail water???? <yikes>
     
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  7. Red Hadron Collider

    Red Hadron Collider The Hammerhead

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    Snail Water? Did I read that right?
    ON SEPTEMBER 30, 2011 BY ARCHIVISTKIRAIN RECIPES
    This Friday, I thought I’d try a little commentary on the home remedy aspect of the collection here (archivist Kira, again!).

    One of the joys of working with a culinary history collection is that, no matter what you think you know, you’ll be surprised, sometimes a little disgusted…and ALWAYS inspired to learn when you are caught off guard. So, when perusing a handwritten manuscript receipt* book from England, c.1731, I did a double take. “Snail Water.” I read it twice, then kept going, just to be sure: “Take 6 Lbs of Garden Snails…”

    Reading further along, the receipt instructs readers to bruise the snails, shells and all. As the list on ingredients continued (16 eggs with shells, half an ounce of nutmeg, root of “liquorice,” to mention a few), I wondered what would actually cause someone to ingest this mixture. A little research later, it turns out “snail water” was a common treatment for consumption (tuberculosis) during the 17th and 18th centuries. Recipes varied greatly—at least one included ground up earthworms in addition to snails, as well as various combinations of herbs—but none proved to be a miracle cure.

    We invite you to view our recipe, though I wouldn’t suggest trying it, before you accuse me of cruelty to snails. The 1731 Book for Receipts is available online in pdf. The recipe for snail water is on page 23, but the whole item is worth a look (check out that handwriting!). If you want to pickle something, this is the manuscript item for you: walnuts, kidney beans, pigeons, muskmelons, and the list goes on…

    You know some ****ing weird people, dribs <yikes>
     
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  8. LuisDiazgamechanger

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    Is true.. when you kill the snail there are some blue water that comes out. It is healing medicine for some people.
     
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  9. Red Hadron Collider

    Red Hadron Collider The Hammerhead

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    Possibly for some lost tribe in the tropical rain forest <yikes>
     
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  10. LuisDiazgamechanger

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    The Effectiveness of Snail Slime and Chitosan in
    Wound Healing

    Agnes Sri Harti, S. Dwi Sulisetyawati, Atiek Murharyati, and Meri Oktariani

    Departement of Nursing, Kusuma Husada Surakarta School of Health Science, Surakarta, Indonesia
    Email: [email protected], {sanni_salsabila, amorhayati, merry_octariani} @yahoo.co.id

    Ika Budi Wijayanti

    Departement of Midwifery, Kusuma Husada Surakarta School of Health Science, Surakarta, Indonesia
    Email: [email protected]

    Abstract

    —Snail slime (Achatina fulica) has many functions,

    including wound or scratch and gingivitis healings, and skin
    care. The essential substances contained in the snail slime
    involve glycosaminoglycans and proteins. The proteins have
    important biological functions, including as a bacterial
    protein (enzyme) binding receptor. Chitosan is a natural
    polymer containing a hydroxyl group (OH) and amine
    groups (NH2) which is positively charged in acidic solution.
    It is antimicrobial and polycationic, so that it can be used as
    a coagulant agent. The research aims at finding out the
    effectiveness of snail slime and chitosan in wound healing.
    The methods employed in the research included isolation of
    snail slime, the synthesis of chitosan (2%), and
    in vivo

    treatment stages using 5 groups of mice as negative controls,
    snail slime and chitosan (2%). The ratios of snail slime and
    chitosan examined were 1: 1, 1: 2, and 2: 1. The result shows
    that snail slime and chitosan (2%) with the ratio of 1: 2 is
    effective in wound healing. The content of the antiinflammatory
    factor in snail slime and antimicrobial.

    Index Terms

    —chitosan, snail slime, wound healing



    I. I
    NTRODUCTION

    Wound healing is crucial to bring back skin integrity
    and it is also a complex and dynamic process with a
    predictable pattern. Proliferation phase is one of
    significant phases in wound healing, and it occurs after
    the inflammatory phase [1]. The proliferation or
    fibroblastic phase will occur quickly if there is no
    infection and contamination in the inflammatory phase
    [2].
    The use of chemical compounds for wound healing or
    chemotherapy including povidone iodine sometimes
    gives a toxic effect in in vitro studies. Therefore, other
    alternative treatments using natural materials which are
    useful as antimicrobial factors, such as snail slime and
    chitosan, are highly required.
    Wound healing with snail slime can be one of the
    alternatives because it is not only easy to use, but it also
    can spread well in the skin. In addition, it does not clog
    skin pores, and it has an antibacterial effect. Snail slime
    gives a positive reaction to test for protein contents,
    comprising amino acids and proteins which play role in

    Manuscript received November 25, 2015; revised January 25, 2016.

    cell regeneration and growth. The animal protein content
    of snail slime has a high biological value in wound
    healing and in the inhibition of inflammatory process.
    Slime of
    Achatina fulica can heal wound twice faster than

    the normal saline solution can. The essential content of
    snail slime includes
    glycosaminoglycan that can bind

    copper peptide. The snail’s proteins have essential

    biological functions, comprising as bacterial protein
    (enzyme) binding receptor [3].
    Chitosan is three-high-molecular weight natural
    polymer. It is nonpoisonous; it can accelerate wound
    healing, reduce blood cholesterol levels, stimulate the
    immune response and can be biologically decomposed. It
    has a stronger antimicrobial property compared to chitin
    in avoiding fungi because it has an active group that will
    bind to microbes, so it can inhibit microbial growth.
    Chitosan has a good chemical reactivity because it has a
    number of hydroxyl (OH) and amine groups (NH2)
    attaching to its chain. One of its important characteristics
    is that it has a positive charge in acidic solution. The
    substance is a stronger antifungal factor compared to
    chitin. In addition, chitosan is polycationic, so it can be
    used as a clotting agent [4].
    The research aims at finding out the effectiveness of
    snail slime and chitosan in wound healing. The content of
    the antiinflammatory factor in snail slime and
    antimicrobial factor in chitosan is supposed to be
    potential and effective combination in wound healing.
    II. M
    ATERIAL AND METHODS

    A. Material and Samples


    The research was conducted at the Microbiology and
    Parasitology Laboratory of Medical Faculty of Sebelas
    Maret University and the Science Laboratory of Kusuma
    Husada Surakarta School of Health for 6 months.
    The materials used included crude chitosan
    synthesized from crab shell waste and chitosan
    manufactured by Biotechsurindo in Cirebon.

    B. Isolation of Snail Slime


    The snail slime isolation as in Fig. 1 was obtained from
    10-50 local snails (
    Achatina fulica) using an electric

    shock from 5-10 volt power supply for 30-60 seconds.

    International Journal of Pharma Medicine and Biological Sciences Vol. 5, No. 1, January 2016


    ©2016http://www.ijpmbs.com/papers/13-E0007.pdf


    HRC- Before you judge. This an aritcle from an acedemic after doing some research.
     
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  11. Red Hadron Collider

    Red Hadron Collider The Hammerhead

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    Think I'll stick to germolene <laugh>
     
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    Garlic Klopp Well-Known Member

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    You will need something a lot stronger after what you have been up to, my son!
     
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  13. Prince Knut

    Prince Knut GC Thread Terminator

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    Two things -

    1) GP's are reluctant to prescribe pain killers that are stronger than those available over the counter as they can become adictive. If your symptomes persist, etc

    2) The treatment I had for my cancer over the last year, including the robotic prostatectomy (which wasn't done by Thandie Newton in Westworld) is apparently over £100k, according to my ex, a nurse who works at the hospital. And that's including the wages, equipment, etc. Oh, and so far.

    When the NHS works (even for those it is not curing but giving palliative care to), it is magnificent. I spent a week in a urology ward after I got an infection a fortnight after my op. There was one, poor, overworked nurse one night tending to forty of us in total. Old men, worse off than me, wailing with kidney stone and various other bladder - related issues, and the nurse is the only one who can administer medication. God help my daughter, and what she's getting into - the NHS will spend millions (billions) on doing something wonderful - but won't spend enough money to properly staff our hospitals, nor have enough GP's to anything but listen for 5 minutes and stuff you out of the door with anti-depressants or advice to go to Tesco's and buy Asprin.

    Have to say though Milk, no offence but this Charlie Garde thing is infuriating me, not because of the complexities of the case (that is what the law is there for) but the ****ing interference of Christian, right-wing groups from the US and your grandstanding president jumping onto the self-righteous bandwagon. Have a look at the rate of infant mortality in the richest country in the world:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_infant_mortality_rate

    Many poor families in the US wish, I'm sure, that their president and Christian fundamentalist groups cared as much about their children as a tragic case in the UK. Despite what Fox News is telling the US public, this case isn't about money. I'd take our NHS over your system any day of the week - unless you're rich.
     
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  14. Red Hadron Collider

    Red Hadron Collider The Hammerhead

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    Carbolic? <laugh>
     
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  15. theStath

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    A lot of back pains are caused by poorly fitted bras.

    Just saying :bandit:
     
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  16. LuisDiazgamechanger

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    HRC or Zanjinho likely to know better:laugh:.
     
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  17. Red Hadron Collider

    Red Hadron Collider The Hammerhead

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    HRC? <yikes>
     
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  18. Milk not bear jizz

    Milk not bear jizz Grasser-In-Chief

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    You may have a point, my back doesn't hurt and my bra fits perfectly.
     
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  19. LuisDiazgamechanger

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    :lipsrsealed:
    Are you a lady boy?:lipsrsealed:..
     
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  20. Milk not bear jizz

    Milk not bear jizz Grasser-In-Chief

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    Depends... How much money have you got?






    :bandit:
     
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