A strikers job is to score goals, Bony has scored 4 in 6, money well spent so far. 90 mins v Malmo = 2 goals 90 mins v Malmo = 0 goals 45 mins v Man Utd = 1 goal 90 mins v Petrolul = 1 goals (UEFA's website has it down as his goal, so who am I to say otherwise) 21 mins v Spurs = 0 goals 67 mins v WBA = 0 goals Average of 1 goal every 100.75 minutes. Nothing at all wrong with that return. If you were to take Premier League alone, your looking at 1 goal in 133 mins game time. RVP has played 266 mins, and only scored 2, so exactly the same strike rate. Granted RVP is a better all round player, but the fact of the matter is, Bony is here to score goals, as long as he can do that, then all is good. Plus he has been playing with an ankle injury too hasn't he? And unlike RVP he is still getting used to playing in this setup, its not for every striker as we know ourselves. RVP has also played 3 teams that are deemed as lesser teams to Man utd, we however have played 3 teams who finished above us last season. I honestly have no idea what you are expecting. We know you are not a fan of this sort of striker, only had to listen to your complaints about Scotland to know that, but give the lad a chance.
He has scored one goal in the premiership not 4-6....so lets get it right. All im saying is the jury is out because i have not seen his £12-£13 million price tag reflected in his play yet and i said he is carrying a bit to much weight and lacks that half of a yard that makes all the difference. Donnelly has scored a few goals also if you want to include teams that are not premiership standard. So far he has not shown his worth yet..
Also (goals / minute) = ( goals / shot)Premier League only Negredo = (1 / 38) = (1 / 2.5) Podolski = 1 / 41 = (1 / 1.5) Fletcher = 1 / 45 = (1 / 1) Giroud = 1 / 84 = (1 / 3.7) Benteke = 1 / 90 = (1 / 3) Sturridge = 1 / 90 = (1 / 3) Bent = 1 / 113 = (1 / 1) Soldado = 1 / 127 = (1 / 3.5) Welbeck = 1 / 129 = (1 / 4) Van Persie = 1 / 133 = (1 / 6) Bony = 1 / 133 = (1 / 5) Campbell = 1 / 134 = (1 / 3) Djeko = 1 / 204 = (1 / 11) Aguero = 1 / 228 = (1 / 6) Lambert = 1 / 270 = (1 / 13) Van Wolf = 1 / 270 = (1 / 5) Not looking so bad now doing what he is paid to do, score goals.
Bony will need time to adjust to the Premier League, but it would help if our wingers could give him some half decent service! I've seen him screaming at them on times, our final ball and service to him is very poor, and I'm sure Laudrup can see this as well, so give it a few more games, and I'm sure he'll come good, he looks the part to me, just need things to click into place, anyway I'm sure he'll score against Liverpool!............... PS: that reminds me, what the hell, why didn't we go in for Borini? Sunderland?..........................
Swanselona, don't waste your time. This week it's Bony he is using to wum and take threads off track. Last week it was ML. What does Bony have to do with us signing Vasguez? He is trying to sideline another thread with the exact same posts. You know you will not get a decent response. He just lives for the "reaction". Many of us were in a happy mood tonight after the window closed, but it seems some have an agenda not to see people feeling positive.
Can't everyone just put Dai on ignore and be done with it? He can comment all he wants then and no one will read it, happy ****ing days! But yes, delighted with the way things have gone over this transfer window. Some brilliant purchases with no top players leaving. Fantastic stuff!
aint i allowed to comment now ????? what is wrong with me saying i think he is over weight and has not showed his £12 £13 million price tag worth yet...? what is the difference to me saying that and never agreeing that he is over weight...you lot need to wind your necks in a bit as this forum is for EVERYONE and not for a select few...Plenty have agreed with my view anyway and it does not mean he wont show his worth as he probably will..so grow up and stop this witch hunt on me as im a bit more cleverer that what you think...
Dai the jury cannot be out on Bony, because he's not done anything wrong yet, we are just 3 games in, and he's on the chalk board, so give him some time, and try and be patient, yes he will lose some weight, and yes he will gain some pace, but that is not all the reason for his lack of shots on goal, try looking at the service he gets, Routledge only had his first decent game on Saturday, Dyer's out injured, Hernandez is just hitting some form, so the service to him has suffered, it will come, that I have no doubt about!................
His record isn't brilliant goalscoring wise, but I wonder if Getafe were not really playing him right and to my knowledge many of his appearances were off the bench. He's very young and the Spain set up clearly think he has talent, so I think he could be a good signing. We'll see what he's like - I would've been happier if we hadn't let Ki go, brought in another defender and another striker, but the squad looks good and I'm looking forward to the rest of the season! Also, on Bony: we can't seriously judge him yet, he hasn't even had three premier league games to properly gel yet! He's looked good so far with not always wonderful service and bear in mind he hasn't played 90 minutes in the league yet (apart from united actually). He's a good player and I'm convinced he'll score plenty more goals beyond the one he already has.
Yes he hasn't scored that many goals in the past, but trust in Laudrup to see something others haven't How many had Routledge scored before Lauds?
A blog by Scottswan Swansea sign Alvaro Vazquez on loan: A statistical profile of our new signing What do the numbers tell us about our new frontman? I won't be alone in knowing next to nothing about Swansea's newest addition to the squad, but when it was announced that the Swans had secured Getafe's Alvaro Vazquez on loan for the season it brought a smile to my face - if only because it meant we wouldn't be signing Peter Odemwingie or David N'Gog. With that in mind I thought I'd turn to the internet to see what statistics I could dig up to hopefully give us some idea of what to expect. Given I'm yet to find a reliable source of information for previous season's statistics it's proved quite a struggle, but I've managed to put something together. Alvaro (as he's normally more simply known) was born in Barcelona and was a product of the Espanyol youth system. He progressed into the first team by the age of 19 and his main claim to fame during his time there was scoring a hat-trick which saw him help his team through to the quarter finals of the Copa Del Rey. In the summer of 2012 Getafe paid £2.6million for the striker who'd shown a lot of promise for the Spanish youth teams, and he's continued to feature for them - picking up a winners' medal in this summer's European U21 Championship. Despite being 22. You have to love football. If we're looking at recent stats, last season he featured 31 times (16 starts) and only scored 5 goals. In his breakthrough season he scored 4 goals, before grabbing five the season before last too, so at least he's consistent... One area he does seem to have improved in is shooting accuracy. In his first season he managed 11 of 31 shots on target (35.48%), followed by 14 out of 39 (35.89%) the season after and 14 out of 30 (46.67%) last season. A steady improvement and getting almost half your shots on target isn't bad for a young striker. The lack of goals isn't encouraging but at least the boy knows where the goal is. Having said that, this season in his only appearance (as a 62nd minute substitute) he had three shots and none of them were on target. Stats, eh? Given the frequency of his appearance as a substitute last season he averaged a goal every 288 minutes last year, which really is actually a lot more respectable than the stats suggest. For example, Michu averaged one every 167 minutes last year, so while it's not great it's definitely not that bad. Sadly, I've been unable to find any passing statistics for last season, but at around 6 foot tall we'll have to hope he's capable of holding the ball up and linking play when needed. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBLhzYO916w&feature=player_embeddedLet's hope we see him replicate some of the finishing in the video above, and that we get the most out of a player who Laudrup clearly rates. Beinvenido, Alvaro!
I have seen a number of posts blaming Getafe for his lack of goals. What his is excuse at Espanyol then. I just look at his goals to games ratio and it cant be said any other way, It is very poor. Still wish we had made more of an effort for Lukaku.
There are players worth more than that who haven't scored a goal yet Dai. Give it time. Trundlesleftfoot: A million quid isn't expensive for a season long loan for a Spanish international. We're playing with the big boys now. The question is would you prefer (as Laudrup says) "....a young player with plenty of potential" or pay three times as much for a 32 year old as Cardiff have done? Bearing in mind Vasquez won't be first choice this is a decent deal. It also provides some competiton for Bony who will benefit from that imo. As for Lukaku - he would be first choice and his wages would be stratospheric. Having just smashed our transfer record on Bony this was never going to happen.
Why do we keep comparing Vazquez with Odemwninge, I dont give 2 hoots who that lot sign. If we are comparing I think we have definately getting a better deal. However, We are not a team full of goals and this signing doesnt give us a lot more, Just wonder whether we should have just kept Moore as spend the money on an untried, goal shy player on loan. As i keep saying really he hopes he proves me totally wrong, but I cant see this at the moment as being a good signing, no matter which way people try and spin it.
"Why do we keep comparing Vazquez with Odemwninge" Because we were linked with both, and if one happened the other wouldn't have. We tried Moore and apart from popping up with the odd goal - even though they were important for us - he was generally poor. If you didn't give players a chance because they were 'untried' in the Prem you'd never find talent.
I am not on about untried. He is tried in one of the best leagues in the world and he doesnt score goals. That are the facts and no matter how much spin is put on about being a promising youngster and perhaps Getafe and espanyol didnt play to his stregnths. The facts are he is no goal scorer and that is what we need. We already had a promising youngster here in Donnelly.
The club/we know exactly what Moore offered , he's gone the monies now being spent on a younger (hopefully) more hungrier player ,He could be the next best thing or not but the club certainly don't look like altering the starting 11 with this signing
Guys, in fairness, you cannot blame Dai for introducing Bony into this thread - it was me who said that Vasquez may suit our style better than Bony! Sorry !
As i keep saying really he hopes he proves me totally wrong, but I cant see this at the moment as being a good signing, no matter which way people try and spin it. and the same can apply to bony......time will tell... thanx taff but don't waste your breath ....when they only see what they want to see..
