VAR

100% agree with all of that, and just glad i support lower league football, which hopefully it will be the last to affect. All this technology is killing the true passion of the game, I can put up with supporting a shhite team and being the brunt of many a joke over the years, but to kill the passion and atmosphere will make me eventually turn my back on the game i loved. Cheating is what pub banter was about, the after match controversies, but now the big money has taken over it's become a business and they want to protect their loses. They've virtually destroyed the game that i knew as a kid, I can remember us playing Everton in a cup game at home 17,000 turned up that day, small fry to most clubs, but to a lower league club in a run down tinpot stadium, the swell of the terrace crowd in full voice on a floodlit evening was what it was all about. But we've all gone soft in the head and now play the game out to armchair fans, frightened of a bit of winter cold, what saddens me the most is yes it was shhite back then but it was our ****te and the generations now will never be able to experience that same electricity and passion in the air ever again..

 

It's not VAR...it's the **** refs and their poor execution and interpretation of the system.

In a few years time it will be smooth...it won't be a case of every goal getting reviewed, not every goal is questionable. It's the refs that need to take charge and not be lazy by putting the decision all on VAR thus removing themselves of blame due to the pressures of the game.

I reckon the game will start to produce refs well versed in the use of VAR instead of trying to educate the buffoons currently reffing the game.

 

Whilst I can understand your point, the last person I expected to hear that from is a Liverpool fan!
Liverpool "Woe is us, look how badly we get treated but we always overcome adversity despite being the downtrodden victims because everyone hates us but we will never walk alone" FC, to give the club its full title.
The match day threads on the Liverpool board consist of a bunch of people baying for Yellow cards whenever someone sneezes on a Liverpool player.
God knows what Sport Astro watches, I call it Astroball.

 

Wouldn't surprise me if I was mainly watching Eastleigh in 5 years.

Or hopefully we drop a division (or two)

 

This

I agree fundamentally with VAR, but in its current incarnation, it doesnt work, it needs returning to the drawing board.

 

It's the same higher up though mate, we've been driven away from going by the cost of tickets the atmosphere has been killed by half the crowd being different every week and then money and this FIFA generation meaning that success is supposed to be instant and domestic cups being killed off as meaningless. It's throughout football but with differences between leagues.

 

Tbph i've always thought about it, if it keeps on it's current path i'l just fook off to a National League ground, plenty not far from our stadium, Bromley, Ebbsfleet, Dover, Maidstone. Although i always swore that i would never support any Premier League club, so my departure will depend on whether my club get's to the Prem first or whether VAR hit's the lower leagues first

 

You are right but the lower leagues still feel more like proper footy, or they did at least when we were last there.

 

On a random note I've seen Ebbsfleet at Wembley.

 

One of my strange interests is the sociology of football. After happenings in the 70's and 80's Thatcher wanted to make the game more affluent, that's not an anti government statement it is what she actually wanted to do, even going against the Taylor report in parts, because she was trying to manipulate changes before the report was completed, hence why i argue some of today's legislation such as safe standing is misplaced. Problem is now, it's evolved to the next stage a billionaire's playing field, so it's now going to move up a rung on the class ladder, hence why i laugh when they call it a COMMUNITY game, the community got left behind a long time a go.

 

Had a pretty decent side over the last few seasons, just not quite got the edge to make it to the next level, spent loads of money on their new stand, only problem that may have hurt them is the Paramount pull out - so not sure if the Theme Park is ever going to get off the ground. Initially it was a fooking massive project, but this is the UK and you just knew it was never going to work. Anyway on the footie side, quite a few ex-Gills, decent ex-Gills players to, and how we never ever snapped up Drury in his prime was always beyond me.

 

Yeah my step dad who supports your rabble watches them occasionally, think he went to Eastleigh the other week actually.

I went to Salisbury to watch them years ago too. Wembley I think was the FA trophy final against Torquay.

 

Just looked it up, yes it was, over 40k at Wembley for that game, that's some turn out for two non league sides, especially the distance Torquay have to travel. Ebbsfleet won 1-0 - don't remember that, but was 2008 so a fair while back.

 

2008 ****ing hell

And yeah Torquay had a great turnout, I just saw it as an opportunity to go to Wembley.

 

Var is ****. Only thing I want to see var for is for offside decisions leading to goals and refs not flagging tight offside calls.

Nothing in fouls pens etc which are all subjective decisions

 

I watched a La Liga game two weeks ago. There were two VAR decisions. One for a goal disallowed for offside and one for a free kick given just otside the penalty area. The goal was given and the free kick was a penalty. Both decisions took less than thirty seconds. Probably helped that both decisions were factual calls rather than judgement calls and all the officials concerned spoke the same language and had the same football culture, unlike at the World Cup. Overall it appears to be working well here

 

VAR would stop **** like this

 

If you think the standard of refereeing is bad now, wait until the refs can shirk any decision making.
Bin it, before it's too late...

 

My understanding is that the trial after the international break is just to see if the hub can cope with multiple matches. There will be no communication between the hub and the match officials so it won't be called on to help the refs make any decisions.

I'm not bothered either way whether it comes in or not. On the positive side is we have a very poor standard of refereeing, they need all the help they can get. On the negative side, var still produces mistakes and adds on time.

In reality there are very few controversial incidents in a game anyway so if it sticks to the penalties/goals/red cards usage, I can't see it being employed very much and when it is it will just switch the controversy from the refs on the pitch decision making to the refs hiding in the cupboard decision making thus still giving fans plenty to moan and argue about.

 

Looking at the video I can only assume the linesman was on a blinder when the ball went in, it came out, was booted away and the throw-in was taken at the point it left the pitch.

So I would ask why do we need the technology for that. Surely the Morton players knew, like everyone watching that it was a wrong decision and it was easy for them to correct that, but it takes sportsmanship to have done so. Stand back let them score and there would be fook all the ref or linesman could do about it.

Any one ever remember a young player where the ref gave a penalty and the player got up and said it wasn't....i think it was a Nottingham Forest player?