Happy to see it go. It was an interesting experiment but it hasn’t added anything to the game and just disrupts the flow. Suspect they could save a fair bit of money by binning it off so may as well.
VAR is garbage
- Thread starter Roland Deschain
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I'd not be sad if we binned it completely. If it has to stay, then it needs to go down the route of other sports like cricket: the original on field decision stands in the event of any doubt. If there is a clear and obvious error it is overturned. If the referee has to jog over to a pitchside monitor it is not clear and obvious.
I don't think review system (e.g. you have two reviews a game each side, if they are unsuccessful you lose them) would work in football. The game turns too much on individual decisions and it is not clear cut enough to make it partisan.
I don't think review system (e.g. you have two reviews a game each side, if they are unsuccessful you lose them) would work in football. The game turns too much on individual decisions and it is not clear cut enough to make it partisan.
I must admit despite my misgivings about the whole thing, I think you could still argue it was a worthwhile exercise at the time. How do you know unless you give it a go. I'm fine with that as long as when it fails as this has, you are big enough to admit it and just accept it as an unmitigated disaster.
If they go down that route then the game is dead. I don't even think they are that stupid.
Its going to take an almighty climb down that though. I can't see it disappearing. I think we will just see them fiddling around with it season by season. Its a pity those who stood up so loudly against the ESL can't do likewise against something which is killing football as a spectacle.
I agree with shearer. VAR isn’t the problem it’s the people operating it that is.
VAR offsides should be scraped. That’s just my opinion. Because it can be manipulated.
VAR penalty incidents have to stay and has to improve. Rather than the referee call the penalty. He should call the VAR to assess. Then the “right” people should make the call for the penalty based on the facts and the rules. Similarly with a pen call when the player cheats.
It should be easy for 3 people to call a decision. Not 1. But three and they need to give reasons and be accountable. If you had 3 people calling it then it’s always going to hr a majority.
VAR offsides should be scraped. That’s just my opinion. Because it can be manipulated.
VAR penalty incidents have to stay and has to improve. Rather than the referee call the penalty. He should call the VAR to assess. Then the “right” people should make the call for the penalty based on the facts and the rules. Similarly with a pen call when the player cheats.
It should be easy for 3 people to call a decision. Not 1. But three and they need to give reasons and be accountable. If you had 3 people calling it then it’s always going to hr a majority.
How many ex-footballers are sat at home doing absolutely nothing. I'm not even talking PL - you've got lads down at Conference level who at least understand the game as it's played - anyone seriously telling me you can't find three ex-pro's to login centrally from home and "vote" on an incident? Anything carrying two votes is upheld. You would have to include offsides but only review if it's clear - if you're drawing lines then it doesn't count. Penalty incidents, checks for red cards.
Get rid of the other nonsense, like fouls in build up and stuff, that happens.
But if player is clearly offside after scoring, linesman flag is down, review and rule out.
All penalties should be referred - because the game is stopped anyway.
Red card review - the same - quick check, no card/yellow/red, move on.
It's not difficult, you just have typical corporate ****ers in charge who always find a way to over-complicate and ultimately **** up everything.
Said it before and I'll say it again
Technology should be kept out of football.
Technology should be kept out of football.
It's not the refs or the people operating var its a far bigger evil nobody has the brains or balls to suggest in the media
Or we could simply turn it around.
If one team contests a decision then they have 2 appeals each half to ask for VAR to be involved. It would happen the next time the ball goes out of play. If appeal is successful then you retain it but if wrong you lose it a la cricket.
It would be restricted to
1. Sending off or not.
2. Penalty or not.
3. Goal or not eg foul on defender, offside etc.
The decision would be was the earlier decision right or not. If it was appeal fails. If it wasn't then appeal succeeds. No discussing "clear and obvious error". If down to subjective opinion eg was it a foul or not then referee required to watch monitor and re-decide.
Also referees discussions to VAR officials to be open and public. Also referees required to be interviewed after game (higher echelons etc not Sunday League football) to explain decisions.
Then VAR would work.
If one team contests a decision then they have 2 appeals each half to ask for VAR to be involved. It would happen the next time the ball goes out of play. If appeal is successful then you retain it but if wrong you lose it a la cricket.
It would be restricted to
1. Sending off or not.
2. Penalty or not.
3. Goal or not eg foul on defender, offside etc.
The decision would be was the earlier decision right or not. If it was appeal fails. If it wasn't then appeal succeeds. No discussing "clear and obvious error". If down to subjective opinion eg was it a foul or not then referee required to watch monitor and re-decide.
Also referees discussions to VAR officials to be open and public. Also referees required to be interviewed after game (higher echelons etc not Sunday League football) to explain decisions.
Then VAR would work.
Although I like that idea it’s never gonna happen.
Plus we would be shafted even more. Referees would just give even more decisions against us.
I’m not sure what the answer is. I like this idea but it would be abused in some way I would imagine.
And it sounds Americanised.
Keep the over the line technology, scrap var
Yeah, pretty much this.
I've watched a few of the cup games this weeks and it was great how the games flowed without var.