Agree with all of that Fella. I've said it before, but I think Arsenal should hold RVP to his contract and make him see out his final year with us. I don't buy the claims that he would unsettle the dressing room or go on a strop. I think he loves his football and would get his head down and get on with it. As you mention, as he ages and his pace wanes, he could become a great Bergkamp esque type of player sitting just behind the strikers - he can already play that role anyway. If he has another good season this time around and nearing thirty, nobody comes in and offers him a big deal, then there's every possibility that he'll sign for another couple of years for Arsenal next season.
Exactly. Also, it should be remembered that City won the league with a bunch of squabbling, petulant mercenaries and RVP wouldn't cause half as much ill feeling even if he did sulk.
This is a genuine question, and no wumming or anything, but do you think RVP leaving really matters that much? I mean, it is a big name just gone but in my eyes he's a player who had one great season and that's it. He's 29, one of the most injury prone strikers around, and you could get a lot from mongs wanting his signature (Utd, City and Juve). Arsneal as a team actually created most of his goals he wasn't like Drogba who could just make goals, so surely if your team can work that well then someone like Podolski will bang them in as well?
Actually rvps chance to goal ratio is nothing special compared to other top pl strikers with papise cisse having the highest http://lewbobsfootballworld.wordpress.com/2012/05/10/should-van-persie-be-more-prolific/
Most stellar player for as long as you can remember ? I thought you were older than Victor Melrew ? Surely you would remember some players who were further up the stellar ranks during that time ?
Who ? for RVP ? certainly his best in the last ten years. But that record was matched by Henry in the last ten years also He also scored 376 in his Arsenal career. Now that's a stellar performance.
in a single season? and impact ? - without RVP we would have finished where? lower than 6th - maybe 7th 8th? Without Henry for any one season - what do YOU think the impact would have been? The team was actually better when he left. Why?- because the others had to put in effort.
Yes, in a single season. Go and check our scoring records Without RVP, I think we'd have struggled last season definitley, his contribution was undeniable. That's why I think we should keep him this season. Without Henry for one season when he was at his best. I think we would have missed out on a few trophies to be honest. I don't agree that we were better when he left either.
Piskie -its not the 'number' of goals - .... its the impact they had. Yes some of Henry's were indeed special. Fab better that year? ...hmm possibly - not sure I'd agree. The point is - Henry, Fabregas, RVP - stellar performers we are losing..... I just object to fans turning on them when we owe so much. We should be sad that events lead to the result not bitching about them.
Well, I think I am consistent. I don't like beating up on our players and I don't like building up players too much either. As I keep saying, it is a team game.
Are you trying to tell me that Henry's 'impact' wasn't notable ? Personally, I think for someone to say that they want to bring the glory days back to Arsenal and that they want to leave the club in the same sentence justifiable deserves some stick. Don't get me wrong, I want RVP to stay, but he hasn't done himself ant favours with Arsenal fans in recent weeks.
'some' Arsenal fans. he also drew attention to the lack of ambition the Club has shown for a few years now.
I don't think the club have shown a lack of ambition. I think they've adopted a different approach to try and win things from the 'more money than sense' approach. But lack of ambition ? That's not a fair assessment. As for RVP. Wherever he thinks he might win trophies, he showed a distinct lack of class and humility by publicly slagging off the club who pay his wages and who have stuck by him through seven injury ravaged years - and after he and the club had agreed to not speak to the media about the situation until it was resolved, he basically shafted those who have supported him over the years. It was a selfish move and did Arsenal FC no favours whatsoever.
Yeah, I don't see how "a lack of ambition" can be shown either. I don't see what the motive is for that. Everybody at Arsenal seems to work hard, so that doesn't demostrate a lack of ambition, nor do I really understand how (or why again) you would conspire between everyone at a club to deliberately not win, and successfully cover it up (wouldn't that be considered match fixing?). I always thought that the lack of ambition thing was something put out by the gutter press, rival fans and our most moronic, mentally sub-normal fans. When I read RvP wrote it, I was just, "Ok - see ya, **** off."
