Match Day Thread V NOTTINGHAM FOREST

[luvgonzo]

Bad runs happen, so do good runs.

 

[moreinjuredthanowen]

It's not a case of relying on others to drop points - it's just a fact that everybody does. We'll drop some more, but so will everyone else.
As I said in an earlier post, the points tally for the top 4 is pretty average for this stage of the season, and 47 is a decent haul for the eventual winners.

The other impact is if someone really has competition to drive them

Last year city had no real other competitions as they **** the bed in the cl and arsenal sort of kept them honest so they got 91.

The year before they cracked arsenal and got 89 as they took their own foot off for the cups.

The year before that city were pushed to the final day and got 93.

In 20/21 they really has no rival and ended in 86


It's all the way back to 2015/16 where we find 81 being a 10 point lead overarsenal where spurs ended up 3rd in a 2 horse race.

The way all the sides are playing 2 ppg seems where they are all at so if you apply that out to the end of the season we can get 83 points. Hence my prediction.

If you project 84 for arsenal then they need to go at 2.44 ppg.

For context that's 10/12 points in block terms. No more losses and win say 13 and draw 5.

If you said to a top side that you could draw 5 in the run in and win the title, i think we would be saying they are well in front right now.

Arsenal are 7 points back.

2 points per game for lfc could be a record of 13-0-5. Or say 12-3-3

In other words can you see lfc going 12-3-3 for the rest of the season? Yes i could.

Can I see arsenal go 13-5-0. I think it'd be very good form to have from where they are now. It's not impossible.

City would now need 16 wins to get to 84 imo.

Forest will need 13-4-2. Can they do they? Possibly. Will they? No. They'll draw more awa from home imo

So lfc need to win 14 more games (imo)

Start counting them down. We have 4 games to mess up (imo)

 

[InBiscanWeTrust]

And so we should - 3 points from two games is better than 2 points from two games. That's something rafa never learned, and hence why he never won a league - apart from ****e owners - even when in good positions. If we drop another 2 points at Brentford people may say "Hey, we're unbeaten in the league in January" when the story really will be that we've dropped 6 points. We dropped 4 points in December too. We've relying on everyone else around us dropping points again - this can't last forever.

Depends on the opposition. 2 draws against 2nd and 3rd is better than a win against 20th and lose against 19th

 

[Ivan Dobsky]

The other impact is if someone really has competition to drive them

Last year city had no real other competitions as they **** the bed in the cl and arsenal sort of kept them honest so they got 91.

The year before they cracked arsenal and got 89 as they took their own foot off for the cups.

The year before that city were pushed to the final day and got 93.

In 20/21 they really has no rival and ended in 86


It's all the way back to 2015/16 where we find 81 being a 10 point lead overarsenal where spurs ended up 3rd in a 2 horse race.

The way all the sides are playing 2 ppg seems where they are all at so if you apply that out to the end of the season we can get 83 points. Hence my prediction.

If you project 84 for arsenal then they need to go at 2.44 ppg.

For context that's 10/12 points in block terms. No more losses and win say 13 and draw 5.

If you said to a top side that you could draw 5 in the run in and win the title, i think we would be saying they are well in front right now.

Arsenal are 7 points back.

2 points per game for lfc could be a record of 13-0-5. Or say 12-3-3

In other words can you see lfc going 12-3-3 for the rest of the season? Yes i could.

Can I see arsenal go 13-5-0. I think it'd be very good form to have from where they are now. It's not impossible.

City would now need 16 wins to get to 84 imo.

Forest will need 13-4-2. Can they do they? Possibly. Will they? No. They'll draw more awa from home imo

So lfc need to win 14 more games (imo)

Start counting them down. We have 4 games to mess up (imo)

Can't see us winning 14 out of 18, tbh. I think we need to win 12 and draw 3. We can lose three at most. 86 points will do it. Can't see anyone getting 90 points this season, including us. Arsenal need 46 points from 18 games to get 86 points - dropping no more than 8. That's no more than 4 draws, even if they don't lose another game. Nah. But I do think we'll need to win our head-to-head now, or at least not lose it. I didn't think that was going to be the case had we not dropped these 4 points in January.

All that said, this team is no 2020 team - they're not even the 2022 team. I thought in Slot's first season we'd do fine to comfortably qualify for the CL and win a cup (possibly the CL itself). I didn't see City's implosion coming. All the more reason though that we should be the ones to step in in the odd season that they inevitably fail, and hence why I'm still anxious that the club isn't doing everything it can to take advantage by spending that money they had put aside for Zubimendi, even though it's probably right not to spend it on him. If we miss this chance we'll miss a commercial opportunity to more than recoup any money spent this month by being able to parade a Prem title all over the world this summer and the mother of all parades at the end of this season. Christ knows what that will do for worldwide commercial gains - more than coming second, but 'keeping the purse strings tight' as the FSG stooges at the Echo are now parroting.

 

[Milk..]

Can't see us winning 14 out of 18, tbh. I think we need to win 12 and draw 3. We can lose three at most. 86 points will do it. Can't see anyone getting 90 points this season, including us. Arsenal need 46 points from 18 games to get 86 points - dropping no more than 8. That's no more than 4 draws, even if they don't lose another game. Nah. But I do think we'll need to win our head-to-head now, or at least not lose it. I didn't think that was going to be the case had we not dropped these 4 points in January.

All that said, this team is no 2020 team - they're not even the 2022 team. I thought in Slot's first season we'd do fine to comfortably qualify for the CL and win a cup (possibly the CL itself). I didn't see City's implosion coming. All the more reason though that we should be the ones to step in in the odd season that they inevitably fail, and hence why I'm still anxious that the club isn't doing everything it can to take advantage by spending that money they had put aside for Zubimendi, even though it's probably right not to spend it on him. If we miss this chance we'll miss a commercial opportunity to more than recoup any money spent this month by being able to parade a Prem title all over the world this summer and the mother of all parades at the end of this season. Christ knows what that will do for worldwide commercial gains - more than coming second, but 'keeping the purse strings tight' as the FSG stooges at the Echo are now parroting.

I expected around 5th place and no cups, TBH.
We're certainly not guaranteed any cups... But I think even with a massive collapse, we're easily going to finish above my 5th prediction.


This season will be better than I thought likely.... Remains to be seen how much better.

 

[SIR_KENNY_KLOPP_KING]

I wouldn’t be confident enough to predict a points total but I would be ecstatic to finish one point ahead of the team
In second.

 

[Ivan Dobsky]

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[ademuzzy]

I’m still annoyed we haven’t won the game

 

[Ivan Dobsky]

****ing arsehole, ****ing MoTD didn't even show the pen that should have been on Salah. Lineker may be going, but his influence will still be felt.

 

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[Gerrardsitchyear]

The second one is Dias

 

[Ivan Dobsky]

The second one is Dias

Diaz, yeah, but still highlights the ref's inconsistency. I was infuriated with Darren Fletcher's commentary about 'letting the game flow', because that only applied one way. Forest got every 50/50 (and even the odd 10/90, as epitomised by that challenge on Diaz that you refer to).