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UTD will not make any signings

Discussion in 'Manchester United' started by HRH Custard VC, Jan 14, 2014.

  1. UnitedinRed

    UnitedinRed Well-Known Member

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    Pretty sure Woodward has admitted they failed miserably. Their inexperience showed through.

    The Glazers set the budget and beyond that its down to the manager and chief exec. I seriously doubt £28million was our budget. Probably double or more.

    So the blame rests 100% with those responsible for transfers. At United that is the manager and the chief exec.
     
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  2. shwan

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    explain pls why over the years, we let all our targets slip to our rivals and other clubs bcz we didn't match what they offered if Glazers are ready to spend?

    I remember I seen a stat stating we paid around 8m a year in average for our transfer deals since Galzers took over while the rest was funded by selling players , while Glazers took out about 600m out of the club <ok>
     
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  3. UnitedinRed

    UnitedinRed Well-Known Member

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    What targets are these?

    Hazard? Agent wanted a huge fee for doing erm..... what ever it is agents actually do ( answers on a postcard ).

    berbatov? Nope, we got him, ahead of City. we paid the extra money.

    Lucas Moura? See Hazard.

    Fabregas? He clearly had funds, so why didnt Ed just bid the 40million needed to sort the deal out? did the glazers say no? I doubt it, they would have made their money back in no time.

    Thiago? All was sorted until Pep reared his silly head. Not much we could do.

    The Glazers gave him £28million for Fellaini. Yet you talk about not giving the funds needed, they gave him double the amount he should have been spending on him.

    Where is this mystery £8million a year stat? Are you aware such a stat includes the £80million we got for Ronaldo knocking £20million a year off since his sale? Have you seen the fees we have paid for young english players?
     
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  4. Manobear

    Manobear I love cheeseburgers

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    I do enjoy the people saying the glazers wouldn't let Moyes spend money, but he spent £28m on Fellaini which approximately £28m than he's worth basing it off this season. Fabregas didn't leave as he was assured of a place at Barca, we were linked with Thiago, but I thought Thiago said we never contacted him. (That the Glazer's job?) Under the Glazers we've spent boatloads of money on players like Berbatov, Anderson, Hargreaves, Nani, RVP, Smalling, Jones, De Gea, and Kagawa. That doesn't even include Rooney's giant salary he got. The Glazers have spent quite a bit of money, but how many of those players do you think have done enough to equal the value of their respective transfer fee? Nani, De Gea, and maybe RVP from those lists don't look like wares of money. Jones and Smalling have time to improve. The rest however were relative flops. I also forgot the waste of space that is Ashley Young. I'm sorry the Glazers can't fund the purchase of an entirely new squad every year like Chelsea or City. I'm thankful that they don't, do you think the likes of Januzaj, Powell, and the other young talent would have got a chance at all at City? They'd rot in the reserves until they were sold to Chelsea who would then sell them to some mid table team when people would realize hey, this kids pretty good. See Daniel Sturridge for reference.
     
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  5. glazerfodder

    glazerfodder Well-Known Member

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    I'm afraid at the moment Moyes is like a guy in a hired suit trucking around the Lamborghini showrooms of Europe when he knows in his heart he really wants a Ford Focus.
     
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  6. BBFs Unpopular View

    BBFs Unpopular View Well-Known Member

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    Baines is signing a new deal so that leaves..

    :D
     
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  7. UnitedinRed

    UnitedinRed Well-Known Member

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    Nobody cared.....

    Not sure why were after him? Old, over priced and not the answer to our problems.
     
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  8. Sweats

    Sweats Sure Forum Moderator

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    Mano do you think if we didn't have such massive debt eating away at the disposable income we wouldn't have gone the extra mile to actually he our targets?

    We as a club have a bigger income than any other club. Yet we are constrained by a wage structure and a transfer structure that we don't or won't break.

    I accept the fact the glazers have been canny in increasing our revenue. But they are doing this to service the debt.

    We have missed out on some of the best players on the planet. Yaya, aguero.. To name a few. Why? Because city are a bigger club? Course not. The difference city wanted it more and paid what it took to get their targets.

    Yes we have spent money, but we certainly haven't spent what our capacity would have allowed if we were not servicing a huge debt.

    The glazers are ****ing leeches. Yes Woodward is a dick. He is responsible for bringing in the players. He had the list of the players moyes wanted then working within the parameters set by the glazers offered not enough to bring them in. I firmly believe we could have got fabregas we offered the same as we ended up paying for fellani. Ridiculous incompetence.
     
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  9. Manobear

    Manobear I love cheeseburgers

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    The money City paid and Chelsea in their early Roman days was unheard of. For a club with an actual wage structure and system spending absurd amounts on players was something we were never going to do. If we had signed a few players and matches the wages City were offering, our entire squad would end up demanding a huge increase in their wages as well, take Rooney for example, his whole I put in a transfer request was just a ploy to get more money. Had we started signing players with Rooney-esque wages the players who'd been at the club for awhile and perform well (Evra, Vidic, etc.) would have held out for more money. The only reason City and Chelsea were able to sign top talent was the money they were offering. Obviously now that our squad is devoid of real talent, and Fergie is gone we do need to spend the cash and now that City and Chelsea have rolled back the spending we should be able to match their offers.

    I'm not arguing the Glazers are free of blame, but I don't think they're at blame for our lack of recent spending. The only thing they do with transfers is sign the checks. The blame needs to be directed at the people in charge of identifying targets and those with securing the deals. Kevin Strootman went to AS Roma this summer. Given the choice of Manchester United and Roma who do you think he would have picked? Yet we made not a single offer . Fabregas was a shot in the dark. He went to Barca to be home, I bet he'd have to be shown the door in order to leave. Instead we ended up spending £28m on a giant useless Afro that isn't worthy of being in the same room as Fabio's ball-fro. The Glazers are obviously business men and successful ones at that. I'm sure they know they HAVE to spend in order to maintain success, which in return maintains high profits.
     
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  10. RvP...?
     
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  11. KingEric07.

    KingEric07. cape wearing twat

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    That's one exception and seemingly we only got him as he really wanted to sign for United ragardless or higher offers.

    We could name a long list of those we've not ended up getting though due to money. RvP was just an exception to what is now the norm <ok>
     
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  12. Matth_2014

    Matth_2014 Well-Known Member

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    Hazard.
     
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  13. KingEric07.

    KingEric07. cape wearing twat

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    Not exactly the long list I stated but it's a start Matth.

    Thanks x x
     
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  14. HRH Custard VC

    HRH Custard VC National Car Park Attendant

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    Moyes has just said, no signing this January, as other clubs don't want to sell.

    So thats it :(
     
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  15. chelsea - over 100 years of history

    chelsea - over 100 years of history Well-Known Member

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    Benfica seemed happy to sell...:biggrin:
     
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  16. Skylarker

    Skylarker PL High Commissioner

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    I'm really pleased that your relationship with Matth is back on and seems to be blossoming. It's cute - who thought romance was dead.
     
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  17. HRH Custard VC

    HRH Custard VC National Car Park Attendant

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    £21M % profit, not bad for them
     
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  18. chelsea - over 100 years of history

    chelsea - over 100 years of history Well-Known Member

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    True but not really relevant. The point being that a top European side was prepared to let their best player be sold; so Moyes' excuse doesn't ring true.
     
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  19. KingEric07.

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    Did Matic have a release clause or have they just sold ?

    It's true though that if you're willing to pay enough money then at least some clubs would be prepared to sell.
     
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  20. HRH Custard VC

    HRH Custard VC National Car Park Attendant

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    I agree, but why pay over the odds for a player, when its better to spend it in the summer for much less.
     
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