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Discussion in 'Bristol City' started by Redprintt, Apr 2, 2020.

  1. johngalleyfan2

    johngalleyfan2 Well-Known Member

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    NO he has not ........... [1 for ] he has made a statement that fits in with your interpretation of the "the movement" and it certainly doesn't fall in line at all with the original BLM which over the past couple of months has been high jacked by a more militant order.. including extremeism
     
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  2. AshtonRed

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    An interesting debate on the whole. Most people in my view aren’t racist on a personal level , although some organisations, and even society in general is. Whilst needs must and all that . I don’t think BLM is the way forward either. There needs to be tolerance and understanding on all sides, extremism in any guise will only make matters worse.
     
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  3. oneforthebristolcity

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    But my concerns are, that I don't see many from the BLM coming out and angering their disappointment or disaprovement of those actions either.....which makes me think, they are quite happy with what's happened. Mind you, it helps having the BBC and alike reporting (editing) these issues..
     
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  4. AshtonRed

    AshtonRed Well-Known Member

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    It seems everyone, including the BBC , is frightening of appearing racist . So therefore over compensate .
     
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  5. Red Alert

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    Bloke responsible has been offered police protection but has now sacked from his job and his Mrs has too. For doing nothing illegal!!

    How many BLM supporters have lost their jobs over these protests and broke the law??
     
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  6. wizered

    wizered Ol' Mucker
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    When I used to run a sales team and when the need came to replace or expand I would place an advert in the local press laying out criteria, recieve all necessary replies and arrange an interview list based on submitted CV's and self explained information letter, the applicants turned up for 1st interviews, then progressed to 2nd interviews with senior management and me for a final selection, the successful candidates were chosen when company set standards, experience, educational levels, skills, personality qualities matched requirements, We refused, white, black, male, female, muslim, christian, jew and non believers, my company was Japanese, my bosses were Japanese.

    We employed candidates that suited our company criteria, all humanity were invited via the advertising, does it make me or my former employers racist because we employed people based on our companies needs and standards, the candidates abilities, race never came in to it.

    Does it make me racist because I would never bow to my Japanese superiors in the UK or on my frequent visits to Japan or sister companies around the world, my respect and loyalty to them was total, they didn't take umbridge and I wouldn't get on my knee or bow to anyone, not even the Queen, does that make me racist, my last 4 periods of employment covering 29 years I worked for 2 Japanese, 1 German and 1 French international companies, all lives matter, all human beings matter, we are all equal, that's just my own experience and opinion.
     
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  7. Angelicnumber16

    Angelicnumber16 Well-Known Member

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    Boris should have done the right thing and sacked him. Cummings had loaded the gun and handed it over and Boris bottled it.
     
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  8. RedorDead

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    Take the pandemic away.

    What are people’s views then on BLM?
     
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  9. Angelicnumber16

    Angelicnumber16 Well-Known Member

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    That's totally outrageous. I hope he gets himself a good lawyer and takes the gutless company that sacked him for every penny they have.
    This whole knee jerk reaction is getting to new and just absurd levels.
     
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  10. Angelicnumber16

    Angelicnumber16 Well-Known Member

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    No it doesn't make you racist in my opinion. We all have our own values, and I'd like to think that the majority of us are right thinking, moderate, peaceable, law abiding citizens. Whether that was a result of our family upbringings, schooling, our life experiences, or a mixture of some or all of those factors I'm not sure.
    At the same time all companies need to employ the most suitable candidate for the job on offer, irrespective of race, age, sexual orientation and such like, and in my experience and the staff I and every company I worked for employed, that is exactly what happened.

    At nearly 60 years old I'm quietly proud of myself and the cultural experiences I've been able to enjoy all over the world through my commitment, flexibility and going the extra mile to use business speak. I also abided by the laws of the many different countries I went to whilst visiting them without going overboard to doff my cap.

    I also worked for and with French companies both at home and in France. They gave a whole different meaning to a leisurely lunch break !!
    The project I was involved in was rubber stamped at board level that all communications written and verbal would be in English for the duration, period.
    But at every opportunity the French would ask me to allow them to run their meetings with me in French. Given I was technically their boss I said a resounding non !
     
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  11. BCFCRob

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    Well you're not looking hard enough then are you? And let's not pretend the BBC are biased to the left. Both sides think they are biased towards the other, the reality is that at times it's probably a bit of both. Laura Kuenssberg is so pro-Tory she doesn't even try to hide it.

    Also that guy who who flew the White Lives Matter flag over the Burnley game...



    Looks like a delightful bloke. I for one, am absolutely shocked.
     
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  12. BCFCRob

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    It's not racist at all mate, but I don't really get the point of this. Who would call you racist based on that? Do you mean because you wouldn't knee or bow? I think only a nutter would call you racist based on that alone.

    Well jealous of your Japanese trips mind.
     
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  13. wizered

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    Loved working for and with the people, the country, manners and culture great, ethics and professionalism fantastic, Mount Fugi, the great Buddah in Yokohama, the Bullet train, Tokyo lights, just to be a bit big, the Soma-Nomaoi Festival (Soma Wild Horse Chase) in Haramachi wonderful, in fact on various factory and site visits around the far east, in variuos countries, including China I found all Asian people, courteous, friendly, hard working and the food (Not open market) was out of this world.

    I was very privalidged.
     
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  14. Loathsneyd

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    I would imagine like most firms this company would have a code of conduct for employees. and bringing the company into disrepute would be a sackable offence. This man has clearly done this and the company are well within their rights and completely right to sack him
     
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  15. Angelicnumber16

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    The world has gone nuts
     
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  16. BCFCRob

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    Would you employ him?

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  17. Angelicnumber16

    Angelicnumber16 Well-Known Member

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    So has he been sacked for the banner or the stuff he puts on social media ?
     
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  18. Loathsneyd

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    Does it matter?
     
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  19. Angelicnumber16

    Angelicnumber16 Well-Known Member

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    Yes
    Because there is nothing wrong with what was written on the banner that would ever stand up in a court of law, or anywhere else for that.

    What the bloke has put on social media is quite another matter. I'm glad I don't use stuff like Twitter, Instagram, Facebook and all that crap personally.

    But in the essence of fairness, lets hope that those apprehended in South London overnight for yet another lockdown music party where 22 Police officers have been attacked and injured, Police vehicles damaged and residents disturbed get the same treatment and lose their jobs (if they have them), and their liberty.
     
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  20. Cliftonville

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    Yes.

    My behaviour outside of work is partly governed by contractual obligations. Most of society isn't. The law should be the arbiter of what is right and wrong. The UK has been going down a dangerous road where stupidity and having the wrong views is being punished with no offences being committed.
     
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