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What have these guys got to hide?

If you are caught speeding,own up and take your punishment.

If you aint driving,tell the law who was.

Simples
 
It's not hard to end up in this situation it's nothing to do with hiding stuff it's nothing to do with trying to get off etc, you have xx days to respond if you don't you get summoned for the above offence - Simples!

I've fecked things up before and not sent stuff off (not criminal) and I have a rather sedate and calm life by comparison it's easily done
 
What have these guys got to hide?

If you are caught speeding,own up and take your punishment.

If you aint driving,tell the law who was.

Simples

It's not always simple.I got a ticket a fortnight after the alleged offence.I had three employees at the time and they all denied it was them.One of them had used my car but I had no idea which one.The case went to court three times with no result.They ended up paying me compo.
 
It's not always simple.I got a ticket a fortnight after the alleged offence.I had three employees at the time and they all denied it was them.One of them had used my car but I had no idea which one.The case went to court three times with no result.They ended up paying me compo.

I hope you gave it back or to some worthwhile charity? :emoticon-0102-bigsm
 
It's not always simple.I got a ticket a fortnight after the alleged offence.I had three employees at the time and they all denied it was them.One of them had used my car but I had no idea which one.The case went to court three times with no result.They ended up paying me compo.


Motoring offences are one of a few instances in English Law where once a NIP has been issued, the burden of proof shifts to the 'defendant'. Normally, if there is reasonable doubt as to who was driving then no offence is committed for failing to provide details. In such cases, prosecutions are invariably unsuccessful although theoretically the court does have the power to de facto rule the "person keeping the vehicle" and/or the "registered keeper" is the driver but rarely do so.

If anyone can be proven to be deliberately trying to mislead a court over who was driving, the offence becomes Perverting the Course of Justice, which is much more serious and one of the oldest offences in English Law - a Common Law offence that must be tried before a jury in a Crown Court, for which the maximum sentence is life imprisonment, which was historically commonly applied, although now, it's normally around a year sentence depending upon mitigation.