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'' United are buying their way to the title''

Discussion in 'Manchester United' started by Matth_2014, Sep 2, 2014.

  1. luvgonzo

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    Sometimes a solid defence and midfield equals more possession and control of the game giving the forwards you have more opportunities.
     
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  2. Bodinki

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    Hummels would have stopped you conceding 2 goals at home V Swansea.
    A better defensive platform can be built upon to improve the whole team.

    My point is, you already had a world class striker in RVP, so piling another world class striker on top of that? How much can you improve world class by pouring more world class on top?
    The only thing in your favour now is that, as RVP gets crocked a lot, you have someone just as good if not better to come in when he is out.
    Although Falcao has been a crock lately too, but unless both get injured at the same time, you are covered.
    Di Maria = Mata.
    Di maria is better, but you just spent a club record on an awesome attacking player who plays in a similar role (attacking winger, though his best position is at No.10, where you play Rooney). Again, you have replaced someone who really didnt need replacing and improved your team by fractions.
    Hummels replacing Evans for instance would give your defence an extra 30% where as Di Maria replacing Mata gives your midfield an extra 5%
     
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  3. chelsea - over 100 years of history

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    Exactly. United have certainly improved their squad but for the 200 odd million spent, how much better is their first 11 compared to a year ago? The Defence looks worse without Evra and Vidic (and Rio to a lesser extent as his star was waning), the midfield still lacks a Keane / Vidal type and they've signed another bunch of number 10's and forwards to compliment what was already their strongest position/s.

    The late signings of Di Maria and Falcao at hugely inflated prices/wages shows a massive lack of planning and desperation and fill positions that were well covered already. Rojo and Blind are average and are in the positions that needed addressing. That's where the concern must lie for United fans. Time will tell I guess but I bet United end up spending another small fortune in the next couple of windows to address these areas further.
     
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  4. HRH Custard VC

    HRH Custard VC National Car Park Attendant

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    Sounds good to me.

    As long as we win at least one of the next eight titles, that'll be an awesome return <ok>
     
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  6. Stan

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    Yup. They don't like seeing genuine world class players joining United!

    They wrap it up in the "you didn't need them" story. Who the **** doesn't need Di Maria and Falcao?!
     
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  7. Bodinki

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    They are awesome players, but unfortunately for you guys, they made an already good attack even better, when you should have been focusing on making your dogshit defence tighter.
    I dont fear this United team to be honest.
    We have a great defence (Everton game not withstanding), so you when you play us I can see a repeat of the Everton scoreline.
    We are more:

    Attack 89%
    Midfield: 93%
    Defence: 84%
    <ok>
     
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  8. chelsea - over 100 years of history

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    Don't forget 2 European titles ;)

    Must grate you though Swarbs as up until last year you were banging the drum about how far Chelsea fell by finishing 6th yet you went and bettered that! Didn't even make Europe. WOW.
     
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  9. chelsea - over 100 years of history

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    You could have the 10 best strikers in the world but would win jack without a good defence and midfield. By all means feel excited that you've signed 2 world class players but I'd genuinely be questioning my clubs transfer policy with the way this window has gone (in fact I did a year ago when we signed more attacking wide players without addressing a striker and top class central midfielder). How can you spend that much in 2 windows and still not be considered realistic title contenders?
     
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  10. Bodinki

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    I remember that, we signed Willian "just because", even though we already had Hazard, Oscar and Mata. Odd move, but Willian is a good player nonetheless.
    But the same applied, he just made our already strongest position slightly stronger, when we were crying out for a striker (Torres was our first choice ffs).

    Same applies now with United, only its the defence they need sorting.
     
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  11. weararedbonnet

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    ABU logic. If United spend 60 mill on a player, his true value is 60% less, and even more if he has had an injury at his previous club. However, if the ABU's team buys a player at 15 mill, his true worth is 30-35 mill.

    Then we move on to the ABU's definition of wages. Anything over 100k per week is paying over the odds, so a player earning 80k per week playing for Borrusia Real Moscovicha and then signs for United on 150k per week is United buying the league. They don't take into regard that the player was scoring goals for fun, or that he is considered one of the best in the world in that position.

    True definition of ABU logic.............................................. I WISH MY TEAM COULD AFFORD HIM. I AM PEEVED WE CANT
     
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  12. UnitedinRed

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    Hmmmm. Is that unless your manchester united then?

    Exibit A. 2012/13 rvp....

    Tell me how you would describe our side that season.
     
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  13. Christiansmith

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    Again you are making reference to the money spent but acknowledge that the squad and/or team have been improved. And saying the improvement does not match the size of the expenditure. For me and many other fans the key is the improvement and provided we stay within FFP the money spent is immaterial. You could argue any other team could have spent only 50m or 100m instead of 200m. United is rebuilding and huge amounts of money will be needed.

    I said a while back that if a top player was available we should get him irrespective of price. It is what happened (pleasantly surprised ).
     
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  14. UnitedinRed

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    I can see us battering as few of our rivals this season. Were going to be taken lightly.

    Cant wait to see our full strength side on the pitch.
     
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  15. Christiansmith

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    Yep. This team will be worth watching. Win or lose (hopefully more the former).
     
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  16. UnitedinRed

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    We have players who have gone to bayern and toyed with them, destroyed barcelona, germany, real, united etc etc.

    Big game players. The silencers.
     
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  17. chelsea - over 100 years of history

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    ABU?? Grow the **** up ;)
     
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  18. chelsea - over 100 years of history

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    I'm not saying you can't afford it, that's for the business men at United to decide but I'm astounded that given where the weaknesses in your squad were, that you've spent the majority of the money on attacking players.

    A 200 million spend should have left you with a more balanced squad with quality in every position in my view. Also worrying is how little you've recouped for players who have left. It must have some effect especially without C.L.
     
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  19. Christiansmith

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    Again you make reference to money. There was no prospect of recouping a lot from our squad. United were desperate to get rid. Unless there was competition ( like for Welbeck ) there was very little likelihood of getting very much. But at the moment no one at United is thinking and worrying about money. The sole objective is improving the team. VFM is not even given 2nd thought ( which I can only <applause> )

    You may have a point about redressing some of the perceived imbalance but it seems that the rebuilding is not complete yet. There are plans to spend more in January when the right players are available.

    As for the CL, the GGs probably see the income as only a fraction of what they could get from improved sponsorship deals or more preseason friendlies in the Far East <ok>
     
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  20. UnitedinRed

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    Are 150million amd 200million the same thing nowadays?
     
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