Off Topic UK politics and brexit ramblings

do you honestly think he'd give a flying **** at Calais if the engish trucks got stuck with refugees and they all poured off in our ports?

the disgraceful jungle camp at Calais was only there due to french not caring about people but having to be seen to support their European partner.

I'd have to wonder (don't know the answer) what would france do in a no deal scenario?

 

I watched a movie on amazon last weekend called hurricane about WWii and the polish and international pilots who fought in WWii.

It starred the lad who played ramsey bolton on GoT..... anyway at the end they were not allowed march in victory parade so's not t offend stalin and peopl in uk fvoted 56% to "send them home" to be tortured and executed etc.

So this brexit ****... nothing new it seems. I never knew that ingratitude happened in the story of the "few"

 

Exactly

 

Overnight, Boris has become Britain's reluctant Donald Trump
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politic..._source=LI&li_medium=li-recommendation-widget

 

send love letters to dictators. sit up at night and drunk tweet then threaten iran and Venezuela

 

OJ Johnson. Last seen heading down the motorway in a white SUV pursued by convoys of Journalists and Jeremy Hunt.

 

Yeah, I mentioned this on the 'other' thread on the Prem Board. That was under a Labour government too. Shameful.

 

I complain how they spell neighbour.

 

Boris Johnson's campaign funded by billionaires behind £100m development he approved.
http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...t-he-approved/ar-AADRIOd?li=BBoPWjQ&ocid=iehp

 

Thats how the torries work, always has.

You can tell how the media work by the way the various papers report things.

Why is it not illegal to not be neutral and report the facts?

BBC should be but are never neutral.

 

You're conflating something with Brexit that's got nothing to do with it. Churchill wanted to keep going and march on Moscow but FDR wouldn't agree. Doesn't sound like it was us kissing Stalin's arse to me.

What vote did people get to "send them home" after the war? It was a socialist Labour party which won the post-war election, the last true socialist government this country had and it gave us the NHS. I doubt the same people coming back from the war who voted for change in that election - just like Brexit if you want a comparison - would suddenly say, "Oh yeah and torture people who fought on our side, too." Not being allowed to march sounds like some military officialdom thing, which was run by the public schoolboys who run the corporations which have the boardrooms which told you to vote Remain or else there'll be a dystopian nightmare Hollywood CGI vision of babies falling off cliffs and the return of rickets.

 

perhaps, i just found the parallels interesting.

You are of course right about the reality of it all.

 

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Brexit: Boris Johnson faces legal action over threat to suspend parliament and force no-deal
John Major says he will launch a judicial review to stop Boris Johnson shutting down parliament to force through a “totally unacceptable” no-deal Brexit.
The former Conservative prime minister condemned the Tory leadership favourite for failing to rule out prorogation – which he likened to the actions of Charles 1 in the 1640s.
Tory Brexiteers were guilty of championing parliamentary sovereignty “except when it is inconvenient for Mr Johnson”, Sir John said.

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Boris lover in Tory expenses 'abuse' claim: Carrie Symonds forced to quit £80k Tory HQ job over 'poor work' and accused of costing party thousands in improper expenses
Boris Johnson's girlfriend quit her job at Tory HQ just months after being accused of abusing her expenses to the tune of thousands of pounds.
Carrie Symonds, 31, was asked to leave her £80,000-a-year post as director of communications after party chiefs said her performance was poor.
They had previously challenged her over her expenses

 

The decision to prorogue parliament is one for the queen - she should reject any such proposal unless the House has had a vote on it. Then again, if today's news on Darrock is anything to go by, maybe it's a decision for Donald Trump to make when his fat arsed ventriloquist dummy Boris Johnson gets in power.

 

I am not sure Boris Johnson knows what he is getting himself into because of his inordinate ambition.

 

That it has come to this, which won't be acknowledged as the fault of either side of the house. They're only talking of proroguing - a term nobody had heard of a week ago and possibly since Cromwell's time - because of all the convoluted parliamentary procedure to not only prevent no deal but to loudly remove it as a negotiating ploy altogether. It's clever parliamenting but lousy poker.

I rarely agree with Peter Hitchens on anything but he said some time ago, "We'll go from being half in the EU to being half out of it." And that's exactly how both sides of the house like it.

 

yes i think that is an excellent way of putting it.

The labour party seem hell bent on destroying itself in sympathy with the tories. Corbyn wants out. its very clear but the party itself is forcing this referendum route and it all just looks so.... well... false.

Lib dems look a real alternative to labour for some.

It is the fault of both sides of the house but most of all its the tories fault for holding a GE that put the DUP into a position of power. If have to wonder if may simply went without that GE would she now have her deal through and we would be 3 months into brexit being completed?

Not sure.

anyway as we stand there is no resolution possible in this parliament and it can vote what it likes when it likes but the default in october is no matter what is voted the EU might say no more extensions especially france and havd the ERG and farage exactly what they wanted

The damage to this country will be massive.

 

Sir Kim Darroch: UK ambassador to US resigns in Trump leaks row

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-48937120

 

Shows how weak UK is

 

Boris plots early election to crush Labour 'while Jeremy Corbyn is still around' with aides tasked with getting Britain to the polls soon after Brexit is sorted