Off Topic UK / EU Future

We had many previous ones that proved incorrect, remember the predicted 500,000 job losses?

The UK has actually created millions of jobs since the referendum.

 

“Taking back control is a careful change, not a sudden stop,” read the official Brexit campaign’s prospectus — endorsed by two of the political leaders of the campaign, then Justice Secretary Michael Gove and the former mayor of London, Boris Johnson. “We will negotiate the terms of a new deal before we start any legal process to leave.”
Following the vote, the story that emerges is of a process in which the EU moved inexorably forward as Westminster collapsed into political infighting, indecision and instability. And which party was in charge of this process?
Even if the prime minister does eventually force her deal through parliament with grudging Eurosceptic support, Brexit is far from over. Despite months of negotiations, many of the key questions raised by the Brexit vote remain unanswered. Such is the opposition in Westminster to the terms on offer, that leading figures on both sides of the talks fear that Brexit, far from settling the U.K.’s place in Europe, will continue to poison British politics for years to come, with knock-on effects for Ireland and the EU.

 

Please stop this silly Express stuff. That was based on leaving the day after the referendum which didn't happen. Also if you are happy to say that one hour a week is gainful employment, and the government will not keep coughing up to support these people, then carry on paying your taxes to support them.

 

Desperate stuff, you know nobody expected the UK to leave the day after the referendum. project fear was in full swing before the referendum and is still being used by those that cannot accept the democratic result. I know you live in a place that finds it impossible to create jobs but the UK remains excellent. I'm sure we could give the Macron boy a few tips on job creation.

 

In an era when metaphysical and existential certainties are in a state of crisis, when people are being uprooted and alienated and are losing their sense of what this world means . . . ideology inevitably has a certain hypnotic charm. To wandering humankind it offers an immediately available home: all one has to do is accept it, and suddenly everything becomes clear once more, life takes on new meaning, and all mysteries, unanswered questions, anxiety, and loneliness vanish. Of course, one pays dearly for this low-rent home: the price is abdication of one’s own reason, conscience, and responsibility, for an essential aspect of this ideology is the consignment of reason and conscience to a higher authority. The principle involved here is that the centre of power is identical with the centre of truth.

Sums up rather well Brexit.

Vaclav Havel, President of the Czech Republic

 

The BBC reporting on the UK's 'robust' record employment figures. They also report the bulk of the new jobs were full time. Don't let the facts get in the way of project fear fairy stories.

UK employment total hits record high - BBC Newshttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-46958560

 

Despite the fact that you are looking at an aged article, which matters little in this case, you didn't mention the people that it says are excluded from the figures. As has been pointed out in the past other places do not massage the figures to suit a political agenda. Every day now we hear about vacancies in many sectors, services, health, science or teaching, because the UK is seen as unwelcoming. It is not good to be losing doctors in the statistics, and replacing them with coffee shop workers.

 

Aged - January 2019?. I suppose you find it difficult to comprehend the UK with near full employment when 'job vacancy' in France is rarer than the dodo.

 

The Office for National Statistics are suggesting the latest March figures for UK employment and unemployment are even better than Jan 2019. The number of vacancies has been rising since 2012.

Damn the data, you need to work much harder on the project fear stories.

 

Where do you get your information from? Speaking to an English friend on Tuesday he has been offered four jobs by French companies after he thought he fancied a change. Go to the DIY stores and see the boards seeking employees on proper 35 hour contract jobs. As I said, other places do not massage the figures for political reasons.

 

Do you actually read what you quote? Time and again people have pointed out that you only read headlines, or don't understand what you have read. Which is it?

 

Eurostat, France is officially one of the worst for unemployment in the EU. You need to look beyond the bread shop.

 

Try to take in the information.

Euro Area Unemployment Rate | 2019 | Data | Chart | Calendar ...https://tradingeconomics.com › Euro Area

 

And still despite people here telling you time and again, you do not understand. I like others will just give up on you.

 

Unemployment statistics - Statistics Explained - European Commissionhttps://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php/unemployment_statistics

Whichever way you look at it it doesn't get any better for France.

 

So you don't like data from the UK papers, the BBC and now Eurostat?
If your information comes solely from the local enclave it is no surprise you have some strange views.

 

Carry on SH. When you learn to understand that the figures are compiled in different ways, then you can discuss them in a reasoned way. I have tried over many months to explain the differences, but it doesn't suit your narrow views. Until then you can talk to yourself on the subject because I give up on a lost cause.

 

The EU are quite happy to release data which accurately portrays each country's employment and unemployment figures. They place France as one of the worst in the EU. You should take up your complaint directly with them if you are accusing them of false accounting, something they are well practiced at in financial matters.

 

More Tories tonight talking about the choice ahead. Accept May's deal or a two year extension.

 

Eurostat use the same definition for unemployment across all 28 member states according to the guidelines of the International Labour Organisation. The only very slight difference is Italy, Spain, UK Iceland and Norway use the age 16 instead of 15 for the rest. Their figures accurately represent unemployment by comparison.

The EU may wish to change this system to hearing from some chap's cousin's brother for a more accurate picture of EU unemployment rates.