Off Topic UK / EU Future

You have it wrong again. The difference is I respect the parliament backed referendum and democracy. leave won the decisive argument so I expect the government of the day to follow through on it's manifesto promise of a proper Brexit. I fully understand those that oppose Brexit but they should also respect the decision.

 

I am really full of curiosity to know who the teacher of clowns is Yorkie.....I will be speculating on this for some time to come.

 

I respect the decision... but i believe it is proven wrong and must be revisited... .rather than subject to the extreme views of a powerful few...

 

On these boards........... doesn't post much.... posted a lot more in the old days of 606...but does do post regularly on one of your pages

 

weasel words often used by remoaners. They have no respect for UK democracy whatsoever.

 

I have every respect which is why i want it revisited democratically... .

even now you have to make inflammatory posts..... as many of us here are remainers... by interference you are certainly not respecting us....

 

Easy to respect it when it's what you want. Not so easy when it isn't.
And please spare us this idea that you fully understand those who didn't support it. Your mantra has been very consistent "we won you lost so shut up and get on with it". You also have had nothing good to say about those who back remain yet blindly support the likes of Field and Hoey because they supported Brexit.

I don't support a second referendum and hope we get a deal that I'm relatively happy with but I will exercise my freedom of speech to say I don't like it.

 

Aha...........Predictions League, doesn't post much elsewhere, has been around for a long time.....think I've got it.

 

Well you see SH. Democracy is not a thing which is frozen in time to the results of one days voting based on only rudementary knowledge of the thing being debated. Democracy is a moving thing which allows people to change their minds if they realise they have made a mistake. There is a very good chance that when Britain actually leaves (if they do) that the majority will be against it at the time of leaving - would that be democratic ? I do not believe that Ukip, or the hard Brexiteers of the Tory Party would have given up the fight entirely had they lost by 52%-48%, particularly when that 52% was only about 35% of the electorate - in fact Nigel Farage had said as much before the referendum.

 

What we need comrades is a soviet inspired single party system, none of this arguing business, just take a perfume bottle into parliament to convince any possible doubters of their erroneous thoughts.

 

In the case of the referendum the decision is frozen as the result. Any interference with the leave result would be anti democratic. The so called hard Brexiteers are just expecting the stance outlined by the PM in her earlier statements. It is not their fault she has been badly advised by senior civil servants into producing the Chequers proposal disliked by everyone except OFH.

 

I don't think in the entire history of forum debating there has ever been less correlation between text and answer as there is here.

 

Can you stop this ridiculous inflammatory posting???

Or is it beyond you??

 

It would not be in any way undemocratic SH. because the referendum had no legal standing, as such, and was not binding. In this context it was no more legally binding than an opinion poll would have been. The UK. version of democracy rests sovereignty in parliament, and if they decide to have a re run then it would be perfectly democratic for them to do so. In Parliament you do not have a majority for a hard Brexit, any more than you do with the population as a whole.

 

When a child does a funny little dance or tells a silly joke the normal reaction is to smile and tell them they're special. Maybe we should employ the same tactic.

 

OK Tell us your plan???

Chequers proposal looks like an earnest attempt to come up with a workable way forward

 

It's the only game in town. Gets us through the implementation period meaning we'll be in better shape to leave in December 2020 and hopefully will have negotiated a decent trade deal. The chaos of a no deal crash out in March 2019 will have huge impacts for UK and EU and if it happens they'll find it hard to return to the table as relations will have hit rock bottom. It's incredible that anyone wants this.
Still, blue passports

 

Maybe you are the delicate snowflake?

 

Have not noticed, the EU has rejected it, Labour and many Tories will vote against it. The hapless Robbins has come up with a duff I'm afraid.

 

Disagree. Parliament voted for a referendum and supported Brexit through the process. The previous PM said the result would be government policy which has been adopted by the UK government. Any attempt to undermine the decision would be widely considered as anti democratic. It would undermine faith in our political system.