UEFA Euro 2012 Finals Players by National Leagues

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  1. THFC6061

    THFC6061 Well-Known Member

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    Here are the 368 players who will participate in the Euro 2012 Finals according to the National Leagues in which they play...

    England 79
    Germany 48
    Spain 33
    Italy 31
    Russia 29
    Ukraine 27
    France 25
    Greece 17
    Netherlands 16
    Portugal 12
    Turkey* 9
    Czech Republic 8
    Denmark 8
    Poland 6
    Croatia 4
    Scotland* 4
    Sweden 3
    Belgium* 3
    Cyprus* 1
    Israel* 1
    Romania* 1
    Saudi Arabia* 1
    Switzerland* 1
    United States of America* 1
    Republic of Ireland 0
    Total Players (16 squads of 23) 368

    *Country not competing in Finals

    Full details of club affiliations for all 368 players can be found here:

    http://www.myfootballfacts.com/Euro_2012_Finals.html
     
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  2. Cove

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    Yea this totally adds up<doh>
     
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    Pretty sure it does add up mate. I'd be careful about using that <doh> button until you've learnt to count.
     
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  4. Cove

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    I meant with actually won EC's or WC's.
    The article suggests that England wins on selecting players from the National League, or the poster at least is hinting to it.
    I know it adds up in numbers, but well, do you see any of the teams i left in, winning this EC? Besides Turkey ofc.
     
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    I can see Holland winning it but he's not really hinting at anything, he just likes stats and I think the article's interesting in terms of the strengths of the leagues to internationals represented. I thought England would be top because our national squad is all based in England but I'm surprised Spain aren't closer, I guess that alludes to them having a more significant number of their players coming from outside Europe.

    They are what they are with stats and it's not claiming that England will do better at the Euros or that the English leagues are stronger, it's just saying that England based players are more highly represented than anyothers in the tournament. I'd liken it to the London Derby table he did awhile back on our board. Tottenham were top and I think Fulham were second.. it doesn't mean they're the top 2 teams in London, it's just saying that they picked up the most points in London Derbies.
     
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    I know, but from all the stats on that page, he picked out this one. Sure you've got the right to be patrionistic, but like i said in my first post, it totally adds up to the chance of winning the EC. Followed by a cynical facepalm.

    But to get back to your point. It does make me wonder where the English National Squad would stand if more players would be playing abroad in different leagues. In my opinion it would enhance the experience of a squad who knows how the Spanish, Italian, German league works. To play against defenders and strikers who you meet again in the EC or WC and not just occasionally every couple of years in the CL or EL. The Dutch squad for example is a favorite for this EC(not in my eyes but still) and they have players like Sneijder in Italy, Van der Vaart and Van Persie in England plus Robben in Germany. All experienced lads who all played against or with players that are represented in the national teams of the favorites. I think that if England were to transfer more players abroad it would improve England's chances on EC's and WC immensely.
     
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    Think we will win 2-0.

    It's tough because Hodgson needs to be given the chance to find out what players/tactics work for him, but at the same time the first 11 needs to get game time together for the full 90 mins.

    We could of done with getting Hodgson in months ago. FA negligence as usual.
     
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  8. Itchen North Matt

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    English players on the whole aren't as good as their European counterparts and beause our teams are rich, we bring them in. This isn't representative of the strength of the national team. Only 23 of the 79 are English after all. This stat just gives a few PL fans a certain sense of smug.
     
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    True, out here in Dutchland we always wondered why you needed foreign trainers like Capello and Eriksson to form a good squad?
    If you look at our list of managers: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netherlands_national_football_team
    We haven't had a foreign coach since 1978 because we believe it just creates disadvantages language and interpretation-wise.
    Though i must say that i've cursed FIFA in 2010 with Lampards goal being disallowed. IMO you had an actual shot at the title in 2010 for the first time in years.
     
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  10. Itchen North Matt

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    I don't think which league players play in has much of an impact. The best part of the Spanish and German sides play in their own country. If you're good enough, you're good enough. England historically and still does produce functional rather than inspirational players. If we did, someone would have shifted Gerrard and Lampard by now. In fact Wilshere did until he got hit by injury. He's a minority at the moment though, just like the other prominrnt, creative players of their time.
     
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    It's an interesting argument, Italy won the World Cup not so long ago with a largely domestic based squad but this year their largely domestic based squad looks very weak by comparison. You might even be able to argue that with so many continental players moving to our leagues that our players do get a lot of experience up against the more technical teams.

    Part of the problem in my opinion is that England's style of play hasn't reflected the faster play that we see from some of our top teams in the league. Selecting Downing and Milner on the wings sums it up for me. Milner has been moved into the middle for most of his games at City and Downing played for a team that struggled throughout the season. When you look at United, City, Arsenal, Tottenham and Chelsea, even though they all play slightly different systems, they all have some pace on the wings as a standard. Walcott and AOC are the only ones who can offer that in our squad if Young is played up next to a striker. Walcott has seldom looked effective playing in a deeper role to the one he has at Arsenal which is pretty much a 433 and AOC is young, it remains to be seen where his best position is or indeed whether he can cope at international level. I'm not saying they're unworthy of a place in the squad but they're not exactly proven World beaters so we should have more like for like replacements rather than Milner and Downing.

    Then there's Heskey, and now Carroll, Drogba's the only big striker that's in a top team in this country but he's truly World Class on his day and adds far more to the team than simply an option to lump it up to. Dzeko's the only other but there's a reason he's always getting dropped even when in good form and will likely be sold in the summer and that's because he doesn't fit in with an energetic skillful team. It's no coincidence that teams that play with a big fella up top in the Premiership are teams that spend most of their games on the back foot but for England, I think we should be aiming to play a better brand of football.

    I still think we could field a side that plays similarly to our top teams in the league in terms of pace, intensity and skill. Walcott, Gerrard, Parker, Young, Rooney and Welbeck would fit the bill as a front 6, although I'm not sure whether Parker and Gerrard would be an ideal choice in the middle. Trouble is we won't set up like that and of the second choice 6, they're all either unsuited to the same style of play, inexperienced or just a bit crap in general. 2nd choice being Milner, Henderson, Jones, Downing, Chamberlain(?), Carroll.

    Right, I'm well and truly off topic now :D
     
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  12. THFC6061

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    The only thing the stats indicate is that there are far more quality players in the Premier League than in any other League in Europe (or the world).

    In fact, with Spurs' Vedran Corluka completing his loan spell in Germany, English-based players will account for 80 of the 368 footballers participating in the Euro 2012 Finals.

    That's as many as the next two highest countries (Germany with 47 & Spain with 33) combined.
     
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  13. Cove

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    Well that's the main strenght of why a tiny nation like The Netherlands has been a solid football nation. We send out alot of player outside of our competition and let them tour around Europe so they pick up different experience from different leagues. Italy is solid defending, Spain is counter attacking and fast paced end passing. England is battling for midfield and constructively attacking. Whilst the Eredivisie is all about tactics and build up play. If a player gets to sniff all four leagues you get a more complete player. Arjen Robben for example. Played for Chelsea, Real Madrid and now Bayern Munchen, class example. Van der Vaart, Hamburg SV, Real Madrid, Spurs. Wesley Sneijder, Ajax, Real Madrid, Inter Milan. Only Van Persie has been in two countries, and he is struggling in the Dutch National Squad. 26 goals in 62 caps.
     
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  14. Itchen North Matt

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    Interesting points YV.

    International football is played at a slower tempo than league football. It just is because the players don't play together a lot and they don't fully anticipate each others' movement as well as club teammates would. you need to retain possession in order for attacking players to catch up. Big strikers who can play a bit can be useful.
     
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