The media love to talk about Liverpool Ings was the reason England didn't win. Stones was the reason England lost.
Are the BBC being paid by the FA for positive spin. England U21s: FA defends selection policy for Euros http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/33276276 Because the England u21s have just won the tournament... wait they didn't even get past the group stage. Clearly the selection policy was bollocks. England can win 2022 World Cup, says U21s boss Gareth Southgate http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/33272015 Again how did the current crop of u21s (Alot of whom you'd hope make it to the senior team) do? Group stage, sounds like winning to me too. Also I'd be reluctant to trust anything the FA's Yes man says. England won't win anything till they can win an u21s tournament first.
Said it before the tournament that everyone who is eligible should be available for selection for this tournament. If they refuse then they aren't available for selection for the full team. Players shouldn't be promoted to the full team until they have lots of experience with the u21s and have played in a tournament with them. If wed had Barkley sterling Jones ox Wilshire all available they could have played with each other in tournament football this year along with the better players that did play like Kane, chambers etc and grown together before being moved to the full team together already having some tornament football and a relationship with each other. Germany did it with their under 21s 4 years ago with likes of hummels, ozil, neuer all playing together for under 21s before moving up to full team together.
Stones wasn't responsible for any of the goals, you didn't see the game did you? Whereas Ings missed a sitter at 0-0.
1. Talk of seniors playing this is balls imo. The seniors are dross so need to promote those younger players as we've no one else. Maybe Spain or Germany can leave lads until 22 to get a chance in their seniors but we've few options. Once they are in action in senior team they can't be then turning in this summer then blamed for being tired in euro 2016!! 2. I'm sure we'd have won 1-3 had Ings got his chance on target. Yes it's all his fault.
Re. point 1 - would it be better to not rush the development and let the youngsters play together at u21 for a few years? If it means the first team suffers for the short term, I think it will benefit from this approach in the long run.
So the FA say not taking the missing eligible players was the right thing to do. 'We stand by the decision' Football Posted at08:16 But Gareth Southgate made the right decision leaving those players out of his England Under-21 squad, says Football Association director of elite development Dan Ashworth. "Youth teams are there to help develop players and give them experience to get into the seniors," said Ashworth. please log in to view this image Getty Images "Those players are established internationals. It's like being a first-team player and asking them to come back and play in the U21s. It's not necessarily the right thing to do. We stand by the decision Gareth and I made. You never know when you drop players into a new group whether it'll be the right thing to do. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/33276276 So the cause and solution are obvious, England's desperation at senior level for success means promising youngsters are given senior caps far to early, England should have policy whereby a player if good enough and if selected should be available and selected for U-21 tournaments if eligible. The likes of Germany and Holland bring units of players through their ranks until they reach senior level but England cherry pick their best kids for the senior squad far to early and that weakens their younger teams.
Not really as it's not that high a level. If we were 3rd in our current group the baying for heads and fresh players would be deafening. Who do England have really? Not much. Nobody would accept it and hodgson would be sacked.. one positive I suppose.
Don't agree with that all - smacks of arrogance. They should be privileged to represent their country at any level.
I'd like you lot to think back over two years and say after 2014 WC who exactly would you have England play and also sit on England bench if not the whilshire and oxs. Who?
Not only that but in a knock on effect it also hinders the young players development. Young players at the smaller and midtable clubs get their first few caps for England, cause they deserve it, and suddenly they believe or their agent tells them they can do better than the club they are at, that they should be in a team that wins the PL or is regularly in the CL. They agitate till the move happens, as clubs like Citeh are desperate for HG, moving for too much money and then get benched as they aren't ready yet. Regular games gone their developnent stalls and so do their England careers, meaning another youngster has to be picked in their place, a lovely vicious cycle. You only have to look at players like Rodwell and Sinclair to see the problem
Nah. If you're a young PL player who's getting plenty of game time at your club and have already broken into the National senior side, given the choice of a nice long restful summer holiday or playing in a 2 bob U21 tournament which will do nothing in terms of your own personal progression, I can undertand perfectly why some of them want to give it the swerve.
Why is why I say it smacks of arrogance. Players like Pedro and Sergio were very keen to represent their country at that level, despite being regulars at Barca.
England should have it's own club in the PL with every players in contention for the national squad forced to join said club. The club can't be relegated. Players would get used to each other then. may not be serious
Not sure about Pedro but I think Sergio was ... ? But either way - you're looking at La Liga and CL champions but still wanted to represent their country at u21.
I still think having Reserves or 'B' teams in the Football League is the best way. Yes, it's unfair for the smaller clubs but I think it's best for the national team.
Grass roots footy should always come first, if it comes down to club v country most supporters would put their club first and that's how it should be imo.
