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Muppetfinder General said:
Innocent? What about all the innocent people who did want it? The working class, who've seen the gap between rich and poor at its widest since the birth of the Labour party. Innocent? The boardrooms of the Remain-demanding corporations that get their arses kissed by the EU and allowed to move their profits around to evade taxes? Richard "subsidy junkie" Branson? The luvvies who evaded taxes and ****ed off to tax havens, then made out what great socialists they are? Jeremy ****ing Clarkson? You mean those innocents?

I do not think that word means what you think it means.

Argue for the EU - while not really wanting a bar of the Euro or full integration, because Remainers can be Eurosceptic, too - but don't call yourself a socialist, because any radical socialist programme would be illegal under EU law. You'd be a Blairite at best. And that's why Corbyn has been lukewarm about it.

Sure Boris is selfish but then everybody votes out of self-interest. It has certainly been a mess but the Remain decision to disrespect the entire concept of democracy has as much to do with it. Ironically, the EU could've avoided it entirely had it given concessions to Cameron before the referendum but it arrogantly thought the vote was already won. Its bluff was called and now it can't afford to be reasonable for fear of a domino effect. And Remain has given it all the ammunition it needed to keep it a mess. A bad deal is better than no deal? Bad deals are what loan sharks thrive on. Seriously, would you let these people sell your house for you?

Speaking of words not meaning what people think they mean, Che Guevara and the Sandinistas were populists. Trump is not a populist, other than he pretends he's anti-establishment. Populism is egalitarianism. It is not shorthand for racist, misogynistic, homophobic nazis.
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I'm not for any of it, Brexit or remain. I don't believe for one second that it was done for virtuous reasons, the people lied to get Brexit over the line from scumbags like Farage and Boris to those arrogant bloated remainers that didn't care to listen to the people suffering the most. Brexit won't benefit the people it was set out to benefit and the remainers didn't reform a corrupt EU institution when they had the chance. But it's the same face of the same coin, our political establishment is the problem. It's an out-dated 2 party establishment that provides an illusion of democracy but doesn't give the public any choice or possibility to change anything. The ones to benefit the most are the bankers and big business.

Brexit was used by unscrupulous politicians to take advantage of the public at their most desperate, which will know doubt benefit them politically and monetarily, but not the ones they are trying to help.
 
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lazarus20000 said:
I'm not for any of it, Brexit or remain. I don't believe for one second that it was done for virtuous reasons, the people lied to get Brexit over the line from scumbags like Farage and Boris to those arrogant bloated remainers that didn't care to listen to the people suffering the most. Brexit won't benefit the people it was set out to benefit and the remainers didn't reform a corrupt EU institution when they had the chance. But it's the same face of the same coin, our political establishment is the problem. It's an out-dated 2 party establishment that provides an illusion of democracy but doesn't give the public any choice or possibility to change anything. The ones to benefit the most are the bankers and big business.

Brexit was used by unscrupulous politicians to take advantage of the public at their most desperate, which will know doubt benefit them politically and monetarily, but not the ones they are trying to help.
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Same as it ever was <ok>
 
FSG's Last Stand said:
Boris who's real name is (Alexander Boris De Pfeffel Johnson)is an American/New York born mongrel, he has no place in being British Prime Minister.
This nation's ****ed up and warped medieval/heraldic/monarchist constitution will not allow a British born Catholic to be Prime Minister because of the refermation during the reign of Henry VIII, yet the Yank with the caveman looks and hair will no doubt be elected Tory party leader and Prime Minister in the next General Election.

The country is well and truly ****ed if and when that happens.
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Would the conservatives really win if Boris were elected. Boris vs Corbyn sounds almost as ludicrous as Hillary vs Trump. It's lose lose either way... Although not really exactly the same since you're not directly voting for Boris or Corbyn you're voting for a local constituent.
 
Milk of Panama said:
Would the conservatives really win if Boris were elected. Boris vs Corbyn sounds almost as ludicrous as Hillary vs Trump. It's lose lose either way... Although not really exactly the same since you're not directly voting for Boris or Corbyn you're voting for a local constituent.
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Would people vote in Boris over May to become the Conservative leader? Not sure Boris's backstabbing will appeal to the party faithful.
 
lazarus20000 said:
Would people vote in Boris over May to become the Conservative leader? Not sure Boris's backstabbing will appeal to the party faithful.
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I would have thought Boris would be seen as unelectable for PM by his party. Even if they like Boris themselves you need someone people will want elected... But then again I would have thought that about Corbyn... And Trump in the US.
 
may only has the job cos gove was unpalatable and gove shafted boris as boris was unelectable.

so Boris is or was so far down the conservative list that they put a no mark like may in as a compromise leader rather than risk him.

the fact is a rump of the conservative party use Johnson and the Remainers side would split off if he was leader.

the Tories will shortly run out of possible candidates.
 
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Trump ally claims US Prez could SUE over London baby balloon
A CLOSE friend of Donald Trump claims the US President “might sue” protesters planning to fly a baby balloon in his image.
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they are obsessed with suing are the americans lol.

a disease that has sadly come here now.
 
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Trump ally claims US Prez could SUE over London baby balloon
A CLOSE friend of Donald Trump claims the US President “might sue” protesters planning to fly a baby balloon in his image.
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in theory he could as its his image.

he has enough money to sue as thats his modus operandi.

he hasn't enough to pay for work done a lot of times so he is notorious for suing people who did work for him as a vendor instead for spurious reasons citing unfinished tasks so they either give up or go bankrupt.

He will deffo through a law suit at them.

They should be smart enough to set up a limited company and use that to apply for the permission to fly the thing.
 
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He don't... he talks about legal action a lot... but it's always talk.

As for the Brexit stuff. He's been clear about his hatred for the EU regarding trade so if we stay in or have a deal that has us following EU law/standards then it only stands to reason he'll not consider us a premium trading partner but then who cares.... by the time it all takes effect if ever he'll be gone anyway.

His immigration comments are his usual racist rhetoric.
 
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