Off Topic Trumpy pumpy.

no but it was never changing anything from within was it. It's interesting that theres "some" resistance to the regime so it will be interesting to see if it grow and into what.

 

I think if Trump had the same unfettered power that Putin has, would be far more evil and do far more disastrous things than Putin has done.

Fortunately, due to a longer established institution of democracy over here, Trump hasn't been able to subvert democracy quite the same way Putin has. It's a shame what Gorby and Yeltsin started was cut down so quickly.

Trump is inherently a more evil, self aggrandising man. I think Putin does what he does and leads Russia the way that he does because he genuinely wants to improve Russia. (Even if this is frequently done unethically).

I don't think Trump has anywhere near the same desire for America. He does what he does to make himself look big or important. Trump's primary motivation is ego.

 

ah i dunno mate.

Trumps a spoiled child. if there was the same scenario as in russia he's have been killed long before ever getting close to power. He's a lacky type.

Putin is pure hard. he's come up killing for position imo. he's a classic hard man in charge type.

Trump once IN power might do anything but imo a non democratic country would never let him get close. the power struggles would have offed him long since.

 

considering the number of journalists who have had "accidents" in Russia he must have considered the dangers in his work.

 

I'm not sure it's more democracy but our western culture. There are enough institutions and enough power in the populace that if people were shown to be knocked off publically (see the journalist against clinton) and at such a rate that happens to the russians, then people would be up in arms.

However, trump is doing his best to control power by firing all those around him who have been vocal about him

 

no i totally understand where you and mito are coming from. I just can't fault him for trying to change the world however small that is.

It's like all those human rights lawyers in china, you can say you only have yourself to blame but i admire the stance and rights that they are fighting for

 

oh yes might have been lost in my post but that's what i was getting at i.e. he must have known the dangers but was willing to still do the work.

 

Trump's tabloid past may come back to haunt him
(CNN)Donald Trump's tabloid lifestyle made him rich, famous and ultimately built the persona that made him President. Yet his back-to-the-future encounter with his sensational and melodramatic past might become his Achilles' heel.
Given his history, it's perhaps no surprise that Trump's presidency is now entwined in legal theater peopled by outsize characters, including a porn star, a Playboy model, hustling lawyers and a mystery celebrity.
Those staples of a tabloid tale thickened the plot in court Monday in New York in the first step of a legal battle with potentially grave consequences for Trump, following the stunning FBI raid last week on his personal attorney Michael Cohen.
Pink-suited adult film actress Stormy Daniels -- who arrived for the procedural hearing in a media scrum -- blasted Cohen outside court, claiming he put himself "above the law" for years and "openly referred to himself as Mr. Trump's fixer."
In another shocking development, Fox News host Sean Hannity was revealed in court as Cohen's mystery client, adding another overdose of intrigue to what is already a blockbuster story, although a source familiar with the situation said there was no formal attorney-client relationship between them. Hannity called from time to time and got input from Cohen on legal issues, the source said, for which he was not billed.
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However, news that the President and his most vociferous media cheerleader share a lawyer -- who is now facing his own legal abyss -- sent a ripple of disbelief through the courtroom.
"It is the kind of stuff that, if it was in a script or a novel, it would get thrown out for being implausible," John Avlon, editor-in-chief of The Daily Beast, told CNN's Erin Burnett.
The identity of Cohen's other client did little to flush the scent of scandal. Sources told CNN last week that Cohen had facilitated a payment plan totaling $1.6 million last year to a former Playboy model who says she became pregnant by Elliott Broidy, a leading GOP fundraiser.

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The unbelievable story of Michael Cohen and Sean Hannity
But the barely believable tabloid twists could not obscure building danger for Trump, which might explain his public fury over the raid: The Cohen case may mark a perilous moment of convergence between his scandalous previous life and his presidency.
That's partly because, were it not for a $130,000 payment Cohen made to Daniels to keep her quiet about an alleged affair with Trump, the Cohen raid and Monday's hearing may never have taken place.
It is not clear exactly where prosecutors from the hard-charging Southern District of New York are headed, but the payment could amount to a campaign finance violation.
Daniels' telegenic lawyer, Michael Avenatti, is an adept media manipulator -- playing the President at his own game, stoking newsy moments and leveraging the legal system to inject his client's case into the media bloodstream.
He described Cohen as "radioactive."
"The President trusted Mr. Cohen as his fixer for years, he trusted him with his innermost secrets, and I think that the chickens are about to come home to roost," Avenatti said outside court.
There's an irony to the law of the tabloid jungle by which Trump lived for years possibly coming back to bite him.
After all, the President used newspapers to turn himself into a larger-than-life New York figure, making sure that his ego, his skyscrapers, his loves and his journeys through Manhattan's nightlife filled gossip columns for decades. It paved the way to stardom in a top reality TV show that made him a nationwide figure and led him to the biggest prize: the White House.

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Michael Cohen's mystery third client is Sean Hannity
Trump's biography is written in the ink of New York tabloids.
"Best Sex I've Ever Had," blared a typical 1990s headline in the New York Post, quoting Marla Maples, who later became Trump's second wife.
The New York Daily News loved tormenting the Donald, once dubbing him "Trumpty Dumpty," but in 1999 it foreshadowed his future, splashing: "The Donald Tells the World: I want to be the Prez."
In office, Trump has stuck with the method that orchestrated a generation of media coverage in New York on the basis that all publicity is good publicity, even if it has often jarred with the decorum expected of the presidency.
He's traded in the tabloid sensationalism of emotion, outrage, anger and dripped-out intrigue over coming decisions, and has peeled off stinging attacks on political rivals, acting as the ringmaster of his own news circus.
In fact, his near-daily, early-morning tweets with their block capital letters -- last month he slammed the Mueller probe as a "WITCH HUNT" -- serve the purpose that a front-page tabloid splash did in the last century.
So far, revelations over Trump's colorful past -- like the "Access Hollywood" tape, on which he boasted about groping women, or controversial comments unearthed from Howard Stern's radio show -- have not significantly damaged him. During the 2016 campaign, they helped cement an image of the Republican nominee as a scourge to political correctness, beloved by elite-hating voters of the forgotten heartland.
But the bridge to Trump's past represented by the FBI's swoop against Cohen could test the President's Teflon hide.
The raid on Cohen increasingly looks like a new legal front, separate from special counsel Robert Mueller's probe, that could be immune from any attempt by Trump to neuter the special counsel.

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Stormy Daniels' lawyer: Michael Cohen is 'radioactive'
Prosecutors say they have been investigating Cohen for months for alleged criminal conduct in his personal business dealings. Since his primary client is Trump, that could be bad news for the President.
The FBI executed a search warrant seeking evidence of bank fraud, wire fraud and campaign finance violations, sources told CNN.
They are also seeking information about any payments allegedly made to hush up women who say they had affairs with Trump years ago.
It is not clear whether documents and communications seized by the FBI include any discussion between Trump and Cohen about the President's past legal entanglements, or whether there is any criminal case to answer.
But in a worrying development for Trump, Stephen Ryan, an attorney for Cohen, said Trump Organization materials had been taken away by the agents. That could potentially give prosecutors a window into Trump's past business dealings and the financial affairs of his family, since Cohen has long been a trusted fixer and emissary for the real estate billionaire turned politician.
CNN's Gloria Borger contributed to this article.
https://edition.cnn.com/2018/04/17/politics/trump-tabloid-past/index.html

 

Anyone with money and power will have shady pasts.

Does any of that have the power to kick him out of office?

Just seems like a pointless waste of time and money to me, as people with money and power have got away with ****e since the dawn of time.

Another pr exercise lol.

 

Donald Trump wasn't negatively impacted by his sleazy past (and present) because he appeals to sleazy individuals. There's a reason no one respectable supports him and that his supporters tend to be rednecks with rebel flags.

 

He's the beautiful distortion of the American Dream his followers pray for.

 

there's 50mil rednecks in yanktopia?

I think a fair few of his presidential voters voted irrespective of his admission that he sexually assualt women. like..... how are the shocked he plays piss games and ****s porns stars who take money.

 

Yes. That's a conservative estimate.

 

John Wayne (I admit I love his films ) original trump though.. . Set it up.... culturally

 

So


Let's check this out. After (I'm being kind for the socialists) 150 years we have:

Western powers being threatened by poorer eastern powers with nationalism in the middle, South and East?

That's from our point of view. .

Within that: we have a psychotic, inwards looking executive reflecting a vast majority of his people (whether they hate him or not ) of the most powerful nation on earth .

We have an ally govt that through elitist arrogance harking back to days gone yore separates itself from the thing that matters. .. while it's oppositions leadership ethos is with the enemy's camp

And yet again a mainland Europe who thinks in short term diplomatic gains while hoping someone else will spend the money to bail them out militarily if it goes wrong...?

Yeah.... we've evolved all over the place

 

@Red Hadron Collider

Help me out. Are we at the crap storm? The thing scientists say is the end of or beginning of..... and I don't mean this year
(Brian Cox through his politics had broken the rules he espoused with science but apparently they don't apply to politics, history or anthropology....)

Are you optimist or pessimist?

I'm the latter. .. we keep cycling the same **** from 2000 years ago....

Make way again for a better species?

 

Mate.... don't ignore all the good in the world...... like artificial knees.

 

CNN Puh Lease

White Nationalist
Nazi
Putin Puppet
Muslim ban
KoiGate
Taxes
Comey testimony
Manafort testimony
Sexist
Wants to shag his daughter
Bullying North Korea
Stormy Daniels
Incarcerated Prostitute has proof
Rigged election
Russian trolls
facebook altered the elections
Election win was "whitelash"

CNN had to crop a video of Trump feeding fish to make up a completely fake news story
They have people on who can claim without question things like "US is getting more like North Korea every day"

am I missing other fake news from CNN on Trump?


You realise CNN's ratings in the US are lower than comedy central re-runs and nickleodeon
It's only idiots outside of the US that swallow their wall to wall bullshit

Even by their own journalist's admission, the Russia thing was a nothingburger, Van Jones admitted as much Yet this "nothingburger" consumed the news cycle at CNN for a year

Now the "Russia investigation" has veered into his sex life Why? desperation, Muller wants to be fired, because the whole Russia thing is a complete and utter flop, to the point where CNN sent a journalist to rummage through garbage

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They also sell sanitised news to despots around the world
CNN and the business of state-sponsored TV news
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/sep/04/cnn-business-state-sponsored-news

You are posting links to the David Icke of corporate media

Trump is bombing a country, again, been bombing Yemen, and you ****tardios post about his tabloid past that his entire base has known about for 30 years Everyone knows who Trump is, you think they don't

meanwhile Democrats knew nothing about Killary, literally.

 

The fake news libturd cycle re the rwo black guys in starbucks is hilariously sad

 

CNN stoking racial tensions, putting out fake news en masse, also with added race baiting
W. Kamau Bell: I know what it's like to get kicked out for being black
https://edition.cnn.com/2018/04/16/...amiliar-to-me-w-kamau-bell-opinion/index.html


2 blokes go into Starbucks, don't buy anything, barista obviously notices but says nothing, then they ask to use the bathroom, barista states policy, you gotta buy ****, this is standard policy, they refuse to buy something, she asks them to leave, they refuse, she calls police, police ask them to leave, they argue for 7 minutes with police and don't leave, they get arrested.

Fake news cycle "2 men arrested in Starbucks for being black"
Police commissioner.. black
Supervising officer on site at the time.. black.

The city is 44.2% black population in philly, so black people in this starbucks, could in no possible way be an unusual thing


protests by thousands of ****ing retards ensues

The reason you gotta buy **** in these places is, because if you allow people to just crash and use free wifi, then you eventually end up with no seats for people who want to actually buy **** from your shop, and end up with free loaders who don't buy ****. Might as well close up shop then ffs