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Jigsawklopp said:
'I hear you': Trump uses a CUE-CARD to remind himself to be sympathetic as he meets survivors of Florida school massacre

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TBH I don't see an issue with this.

Its not like everyone else doesn't do this.

At least it shows someone briefed him and he can spell properly. (assuming he wrote it)

I have seen where senior executives got exposed like this by having clear plinth and their speech notes being seen through it. stuff like how to wave their hands about or look sympathetic at the right time.

All this is is what goes on. Cos its trump he's made out to be uncaring. ... we all know he doens't give a ****... attacking him like this just hardens his core support. His actions over the term will be what means he won't get reelected.
 
PhheHdee said:
It is fallacious to bring the number of deaths into it.
It's fallacious to consider some firearms.

You seem to think blacks killing 100 blacks in Chicago with pistols in a month, is not as bad as yer man killing 60 people with a semi auto AR one time then dying himself?

c'mon mate
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Not what I said at all, and a straw man argument that.

Start with making semi automatics illegal for sale, then go from there bears no relation to what you’ve just posted fella.
 
moreinjuredthanowen said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-43149694

trump endorses guns for teachers.

stupidity.

how nobody sees that if armed security at a school gates doesn't stop it then any shooter thats not utterly delusional (and they are not imo they are quite lucid most of the time) will simply target the teacher first and then the class.

How nobody gets a pistol v an ar15 is no contest.

If i were a shooter my no 1 target is the teacher most likely to pull the gun and shoot them first in the surprise element of the attack.

It is the most facile of ways to say you can prevent student deaths.

Put a gun right in the class room.

Surely you'd be arguing for secure doors per classroom that's locked behind students with exit only access per an aircraft pilots cabin rather than adding more bullets to the mix <laugh>

Trumps just jumping on another bandwagon here as he often does.
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And here's a thought. What young black male teacher wants to be seen holding a gun as the police storm in to an active shooter incident at their school?
 
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Tobes said:
It’s the fact that a civilian can buy a military grade semi automatic off the shelf that’s the issue though. What possible use could that weapon have that’s necessary to fulfill the Sherman’s supposed constitutional rights?

They should be removed from sale, the end.
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Apparently you can buy an AR15 for 150 quid. That's just insane. (Apart from it's insane you can buy it at all obviously)
 
moreinjuredthanowen said:
TBH I don't see an issue with this.

Its not like everyone else doesn't do this.

At least it shows someone briefed him and he can spell properly. (assuming he wrote it)

I have seen where senior executives got exposed like this by having clear plinth and their speech notes being seen through it. stuff like how to wave their hands about or look sympathetic at the right time.

All this is is what goes on. Cos its trump he's made out to be uncaring. ... we all know he doens't give a ****... attacking him like this just hardens his core support. His actions over the term will be what means he won't get reelected.
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Talking points yes...having to be reminded to display empathy.....oooof.
 
DirtyFrank said:
And here's a thought. What young black male teacher wants to be seen holding a gun as the police storm in to an active shooter incident at their school?
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don't worry he will be dead as first target.

i'd be more worried about being shot by substitute teacher (who vets them) and I assume all guns remain ON GROUNDS in secure lock up?

School is instant target for robbery of the guns

the more you dig this lunatic idea the funnier it is.

a) school has to now train teachers to shoot guns.

b) school must provide secure lock up facility for guns each night

c) school provides clear sign out procure and weapons check each moring

d) school has to provide body armour to teachers

e) school has to educate teachers about threatening pupils with guns in regular days work and not pistol whipping brats <laugh>

f) school must protect itself for law suits over teachers accidentally shooting pupils, or worse parents who say the teacher failed to provide adequate care when gunman shoots their kids

g) every dodgy character knows local school is great place to get guns. so they get robbed regularly

h) first person shot in any attack is teacher.

I) teach brings gun home and is shot by police.
 
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DirtyFrank said:
Talking points yes...having to be reminded to display empathy.....oooof.
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its just a phrase. an affirmation he plans to ignore everything said. It is part of training docs for anyone anyway dealing with greivances.

"i hear you, let me repeat what i heard so i understand you."

you can't expect a billionaire who's been able to bark orders for everything from food to sex to drugs etc for 50 years to suddenly be able to be a shoulder to cry on naturally.
 
moreinjuredthanowen said:
its just a phrase. an affirmation he plans to ignore everything said. It is part of training docs for anyone anyway dealing with greivances.

"i hear you, let me repeat what i heard so i understand you."

you can't expect a billionaire who's been able to bark orders for everything from food to sex to drugs etc for 50 years to suddenly be able to be a shoulder to cry on naturally.
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<laugh>
 
Tobes said:
Not what I said at all, and a straw man argument that.

Start with making semi automatics illegal for sale, then go from there bears no relation to what you’ve just posted fella.
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We disagree, no biggy. We agree, I reckon, on the top level issues on guns and this downstream from that, solving the top level issue of gun availability makes this a moot point I suppose <ok>
 
DirtyFrank said:
Talking points yes...having to be reminded to display empathy.....oooof.
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Not sure its a reminder to show empathy, just a reminder of what word to use so that its sounds like you are being empathetic without taking blame/offering anything etc. It has been a management (sorry) leadership buzz word for some time now.
 
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Mr Beej said:
Someone in America should name all the Congressmen that receive donations from the NRA and start a campaign to get them unelected.
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They have. Down to the dollar. Money matters but what it will always come down to is votes.

As seen in recent elections. Get the young, ethnic groups and women out to vote Republicans aren't safe even in gerrymandered states.

The money needs spent on facilitating these groups to steer through the registration obstacles and quite frankly apathy to actually vote.
 
DirtyFrank said:
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What Frank is not telling you is CNN scripted the questions for this meeting, it was hosted by CNN ;)

One of the kids there that day, Colton Haab, a 17-year-old junior at Stoneman Douglas High School, reveals how CNN's Town Hall discussion on gun control actually worked.

He had his own questions but CNN wanted him to ask their scripted questions they had given everyone else. he said "no I want to ask my own questions" and they stopped him asking questions at the event.

Colton was one of two lads who armed themselves in a classroom ready to attack the gunman to protect their fellow students <ok> brave lads indeed, one with a 2 by 4 and the other with a fire extinguisher. CNN basically told him to **** off if he did not ask their scripted questions.

The kid is currently being called a hero, but CNN thinks ask what he is told or he should shut up

This lad earned the right to ask his questions imo
and CNN are a scummy news network with lower ratings than some comedy channel re-runs

Ugh, Frank, just ugh

This is exactly why Frank put me on ignore, for repeatedly fact checking his bullshit posts
 
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PhheHdee said:
What Frank is not telling you is CNN scripted the questions for this meeting, it was hosted by CNN ;)

One of the kids there that day, Colton Haab, a 17-year-old junior at Stoneman Douglas High School, reveals how CNN's Town Hall discussion on gun control actually worked.

He had his own questions but CNN wanted him to ask their scripted questions they had given everyone else. he said "no I want to ask my own questions" and they stopped him asking questions at the event.

Colton was one of two lads who armed themselves in a classroom ready to attack the gunman to protect their fellow students <ok> brave lads indeed, one with a 2 by 4 and the other with a fire extinguisher. CNN basically told him to **** off if he did not ask their scripted questions.

This lad earned the right to ask his questions imo
and CNN are a scummy news network with lower ratings than some comedy channel re-runs

Ugh, Frank, just ugh

This is exactly why Frank put me on ignore, for repeatedly fact checking his bullshit posts
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where do you get your "facts" from ?
 
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