Hahaha!! We are (in a fashion) I'm just in a WUM mood and you left that door WIDER open than my ex-wife's legs were for other blokes!!
What's her number? I'll remember this for when Sunderland get relegated and you turn into a United fan and you want tickets
Haha - I don;t need you to get me one - my best mate is a season ticket holder at OT with 5 of his family (living around the City except him who now lives in Surrey) so, if I wanted to, I coiuld always get my hands on tickets for most of the "lesser" games (there's always one of them on holiday)!! Relegation won't change my love for my team - you know I'm not that fickle
I remember going to Old Trafford, with Sunderland, in the old 2nd division ....... around 50,000 inside with more locked out. As one of the world's biggest clubs I doubt there'd be a slump if things went badly for a few years. In reality they won't go badly, the big clubs now will always be the big clubs ......... football, as a competition, is screwed.
It's hard to bat away the idiots mate, because we do have an element of glory supporters, who don't live in the area. We wouldn't struggle to fill the stadium though, we'd probably start to lose the odd 2-3,000 here and there, it's inevitable if you get a dip long term. The core of our fans are still working class folk, who just like to go watch the match with mates/family, come rain or shine... it's a day out. I don't think it's ****ed to the extent that maybe you do, I think if you had a few seasons like Southampton or Everton, you'd probably be more optimistic about it. I'd probably be more pessimistic about it if United were in a relegation scrap. I think this FIFA corruption scandal should lead to an overhaul of the entire governing body and maybe we can all start from there, to iron out the problems in the game, starting with stupid little clubs like City who have wrecked a global transfer market.
Don't be daft man. Southampton, Everton, Swansea, Palace, Newcastle, etc, are much more likely to be relegated than win the title or even finish in the top 4. I remember the days when an Ipswich or Forest were in with a chance. Nowadays the title is between the same clubs every season which is ultimately bad for the game.
I don't blame them as much mate, they already had the foundations of a great club, they had Terry and Lampard in place and were winning regular silverware. City came in like a wrecking ball and just absolutely tipped everything on it's head. You had half of Arsenal's team unsettled, then they eventually joined City... for money of course, then wages went stupidly high, which we had to get in line with to keep hold of Rooney and pay RVP to sign. A lot of people will say it's rich, coming from a United fan who's team have bought success, but we've never done it to that extent up until LVG tipped up.
'United have never 'bought' success like Chelski and 'City have . . . . they have generated their own money from a worldwide interest, so I will never believe the ingnoramuses who say that they have 'bought' it, 'cos they haven't
I don't agree that it's completely screwed, there's of course more chance of them getting relegated than winning the title, but that doesn't mean the game is ****ed. With money Sky is putting in, if transfer fees or wages can be regulated or somebody would deal with the cancer that is the football agent, there's nothing to say you can't attract top players to this league to play for your side. You should be able to buy a better team than Atletico Madrid can afford to put together, for example, yet you're whipping the same old donkey hoping that it'll win the National for you, you need a change and you need direction and vision, instead of solicitors and businessmen running your club. I maintain that the human body is programmed to gain optimism the closer it gets to a sensing a goal is in reach. If you finished 10th, 8th, 7th, 6th, 5th, 4th... in the next 6 seasons, establishing yourself as a solid European side, I think you'd start thinking about the league and that run of finishes isn't out of any club's reach if managed properly.
I firmly believe we're responsible for the way money has dominated this league, we probably brought this cancer to these shores by outgrowing other clubs in the competition too quickly. We set a bad example and other clubs have come in and developed entire models around those bad examples. We've bought success alright, the only difference is, the club pays it's own bills.
If you finished 10th, 8th, 7th, 6th, 5th, 4th... in the next 6 seasons, establishing yourself as a solid European side, I think you'd start thinking about the league and that run of finishes isn't out of any club's reach if managed properly.[/QUOTE] It won't happen mate. Clubs like Newcastle, Spurs & Liverpool threw huge amounts of money at it and failed. The problem is that huge amounts are no longer enough. A club like us, stuck on the NE coast, will never attract enough of the right players, the wives have too much say now. We used to laugh at the Scottish league and laugh at how the Old Firm won everything ...... now we're just as bad.
Three of the worst run clubs in the history of the PL. Newcastle, probably THE worst of the lot, threw money at Bobby Robson less than they did other managers and he almost got them there if they backed him instead of sacking him like a pack of ungrateful bastards. Liverpool were managed by Hicks & Gillette when they had a ****ing fantastic squad, the players gave up (Xavi Alonso, Torres) and wanted out, instead of building on the success it all fell apart. They went closer than ever when H&G left and they should have won were it not for captain fantastic... no amount of money changes that. Spurs, well Levy is the most ridiculous idiot going, the amount of money he's wasted is unbelievable. Atletico built a team, that pipped Barca and Real Madrid to the title, Klopp built a fantastic team for peanuts in Germany... the same can be done here, right now you have a firefighter in charge who'll never take you to a top 4 spot, but the next guy might get you closer, if Sam Allardyce can make a success of HIS job.
