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Trophies for Manchester City?

Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by bigsmithy9, Feb 17, 2014.

  1. SpursDisciple

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    In some ways - of the 3 main contenders - it should be Arsenal we are rooting for to win the league. They operate a model we should aspire to. That is apart from the fact that it would make me physically ill to see them win anything.
     
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  2. The RDBD

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    "In some ways - of the 3 main contenders - it should be Arsenal we are rooting for to win the league. They operate a model we should aspire to."

    Nope. I have equal contempt for them and their worsening underachievement in the PL.
    If the revenue affairs were reversed, I am near-certain Spurs would be not be facing losing a
    CL slot on the final day of the season by 1 pt every other year.
     
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  3. totsfan

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    i would hate Arsenal or Chelsea to win it,so of the 3, City for me,and they are the best at the moment
     
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  4. The RDBD

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    I am quite indifferent to who wins the PL.
    Two Sugga Daddy FCs, or cash-rich underachievers. All are in the mix solely due to money.
     
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  5. Boss

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    Happy for City to win the PL. Although if Chelsea win it's nothing new as im used to seeing them win titles. Especially with Jose as manager.

    Arsenal winning would be hard to watch as it would just highlight how a club can fight for the title if they stick with the right manager and don't make wholesale changes each year and don't need to spend like city or Chelsea to challenge.
     
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  6. The RDBD

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    "Arsenal winning would be hard to watch as it would just highlight how a club can fight for the title
    if they stick with the right manager and don't make wholesale changes each year"

    There is no financial imperative for the Goon directors to dump Wenger.
    But if they get usurped from the CL like the Poool have in recent times, you will probably
    see a very different story.
     
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    I did say "of the 3", I added "Should" and don't forget "ill". Don't get me wrong, Arsenal are very lucky that they had a purple patch just as PL came in and so cemented their priviledged place in the CL. That could have been us if the PL came in, in 87. So yes, they are very lucky. But, by and large, and compared to Chelsea and City they are nearer to us in how the operate. That said, if it's City v Arsenal on the final day, my heart will be hoping for City. But I think it shouldn't.
     
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  8. The RDBD

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    I don't think the Goons have been lucky at all. But they are under-achieving IMHO.
    If I am wrong, then Wenger has slumped due to no longer having a financial advantage
    over sufficient of their PL rivals.
     
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    under-achieving,they are over-achieving,and with a small squad,it's starting to show,i think it another year without a trophy
     
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  10. Sidney Fiddler

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    The Viagra Clubs have destroyed the competitive edge of football.
    There financial bullying will allow them to dominate the game at
    everybody's expense. All of us are just a supporting cast to
    their monetary fascism.
     
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  11. There is no doubt that among the smaller clubs, Arsenal has the most efficient record, and it's able to make that boast because:-

    - brand new massive stadium, now fully paid for = ability to rape fans over fees
    - raping its fans for stupid ticket prices, and having enough fans stupid enough to pay those riip-off prices = a gluttony of revenue all year round
    - a manager who is now the longest serving club manager in top-flight football = stability
    - stingy owners who prefer to buy cheaper young talent and then sell-on when that talent fully matures = always making more on sales than is paid out on purchases

    Had it not been for the rise of the uber-clubs, such as Chelski, £ity, PSG, Real, Barcelona - clubs that can spend their way to glory, by stock-piling the world's best players - it's more than likely that Arsenal would now be enjoying some limelight in the glory. But there will be no glory for Arsenal - or any of us - ever, whilst the FA, FIFA, UEFA, etc, continue to allow money to determine who wins and who doesn't stand any chance of winning.
     
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  12. Boss

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    How would you feel, if when Enic sell up, a billionaire takes over and treats us as a 'play thing' turning us into the next Man City with a super stadium (and supermarket, although not lidl).......?
     
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    My honest opinion on this would be that i would love it for the initial success, i don't see how we could ever win a title otherwise, but then i'd see myself losing interest in football completely
     
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    Bored, I expect. There'd be very little achievement to it, much like playing a computer game with cheats on.
     
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    So what (as an example) are the ideal owners, in British football?
     
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    Ken Bates. <whistle>

    I'm quite happy with ours, to be honest. Levy makes some mistakes, but he doesn't take massive risks and he seems to be trying to take the club in the right direction.
     
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  17. I'd love it if a billionaire Arab/Russian came in, but it would have to be proper money, not the kind of "Venkies" let's-run-everything-like-a-corner-shop money that has led to the downfall of so many clubs. From what I understand, we have pretty rich owners, as it is, so anyone coming in would have to be absolutely loaded, more £ity than Chelski.

    But I'd want to put a condition on it.

    The owner would have to be committed to playing the Spurs way.

    Imagine that! Having £ity's money, but with the classic Spurs ethos of putting quality, entertaining football at the forefront! Instantly, we would become the preferred club, for plastics the world over! We'd be the club that Messi would want to join if he ever left Barca.
     
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  18. Boss

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    Good shout!

    I got asked the same question the other day and it made me realise I was being a tad harsh on Enic and Levy as when you think 'the ideal owners would be?' , there's no standout example.
     
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  19. The RDBD

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    "So what (as an example) are the ideal owners, in British football?"

    ENIC, but prepared to front up their own money in a proper commercial arrangement
    in order to meet their long term goals.

    Taking the NEW STRIKER saga as the example :

    Owners inject cash in as loan, to pay for transfer/wage costs.

    NEW STRIKER delivers, and club gets into repeated CL revenue stream +/- gets
    better sponsor deals.

    At the first sensible moment, the owners take their loan repayment back from the club profits.


    None of the above is Sugga Daddy FC silly money. Nor commercial madness.
    Why ENIC have never done this, has been a real issue for me.
     
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  20. deedub93

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    Wash your mouth out SD. What we should aspire to is celebrating the goons crashing and burning.
     
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