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Discussion in 'Norwich City' started by NORWICHFANNOTON606, May 26, 2012.

  1. canary_max

    canary_max Well-Known Member

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    I don't think we will sign either Rhodes or jay rod, they seem to be media darlings in transfer rumours and their prices are inflated, means plenty of clubs sniffing around
    Maybe we will go foreign
     
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  2. I_Clean_holtys_boots

    I_Clean_holtys_boots Active Member

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    I agree, as you say to much hype soon gets there prices rising!
     
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  3. NORWICHFANNOTON606

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    Perhaps we will stick with what we have up front, we have four decent forwards. If vaughan can stay fit he is a top player. I like Jackson, he works hard and doesn't spit his dummy out when not picked. Just needs to work on his finishing a little.

    I think we need another central midfield player and at least one more wide player. A couple more defenders too. I'd like to see a wide player with real pace, someone that makes you anticipate something when he picks up the ball, like hucks did.
     
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  4. Northamptonncfc

    Northamptonncfc Well-Known Member

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    He looked really sharp wouldn't mind having him in our squad.
     
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  5. I_Clean_holtys_boots

    I_Clean_holtys_boots Active Member

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    The only thing is, he's been watched by a lot of clubs from across Europe. But who knows!

    All I do know is, is the old Snodgrass to norwich rumor has started again.
     
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  6. Simon21-LUFC

    Simon21-LUFC Well-Known Member

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    It's certainly realistic, but I wouldn't believe a single thing The Mirror has to say about us. <ok>
     
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  7. I_Clean_holtys_boots

    I_Clean_holtys_boots Active Member

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    Agree, I certainly wouldn't expect to see us spend 8mil on him for a start though.
     
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  8. ncgandy

    ncgandy Well-Known Member

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    Rhodes and Rodrigues are out of our price range I feel. The fees touted are way beyond their true value.

    Snodgrass, with one year left on his contact, could well be a possibility - with the added advantage that he's fluent in Glaswegian.
     
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  9. I_Clean_holtys_boots

    I_Clean_holtys_boots Active Member

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    This is the daft thing though gandy, both Snodgrass and Rodriguez have only one year left on there contract but are still asking for ridiculous fees! No more than 4 mil in there situation.
     
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    Just keep your grubby hands off Ian Henderson<whistle>
     
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  11. Northamptonncfc

    Northamptonncfc Well-Known Member

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    Hopefully there were lots of delayed flights and ITV transmitters going down last night.

    That rumour starts up every season, not saying it's not possible but it's getting a bit like the Shola Amoebi one a few years back.
     
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  12. Canary Rob

    Canary Rob Well-Known Member

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    Re. the transfer fees for Rhodes and Rodriguez being inflated- I know I bang on about it, but transfermarkt throws very good light on the value of these players on a club's balance sheet and the website is "highly respected". Transfermarkt is exactly the sort of valuation adviser that football clubs contract with to check a player's value. They have to run these tests because otherwise the lawyers and the Manager (or whoever deals with transfers) would be liable for negligence if they hugely overpay. Transfermarkt uses the same data as the several different expert valuation companies out there, which includes a massive variety of things like age, injury history, statistics to the more bizarre like valuing their temperament. But as players are assets for companies just as much as a tractor is to a farmer this isn't really surprising.

    Basically, the valuation means that a club that wants to buy a player where the other club doesn't want or need to sell, can expect to pay 2-3 times the asset valuation. Sometimes this can rise as high as 4 times the value when bargaining hard. To give you some examples:
    - Newcastle didn't want to sell Andy Carroll, so he was valued at £8.8m at sale and sold for £35m, which is just under four times his value
    - Millwall apparently rejected three bids for Steve Morison before he was sold for (allegedly) £2.8m. His valuation was £650k so we paid well over four times his value. (This isn't very accurate because we don't have a valuation from his actual transfer date, so he's more likely to have been worth 750-800k after a good Championship season.)

    Obviously, we're laughing now because Morison is valued at over £3m whereas Carroll is around £15m, so they've lost big.

    But going to Jordan Rhodes, he was valued at 3.1m in January, and will be a bit more now (though this will have taken into account most of his value leap after a great season so it won't be substantial). So Huddersfield could legitimately ask for, and expect, around £9m for him.
    http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/jordan-rhodes/mwverlaufgraph/spieler_48950.html

    Jay Rodriguez was valued at around £1.5m in early February, so Burnley would be looking to get £4.5-5m for him. Any more than about £6m and clubs are paying way over the odds.
    http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/jay-rodriguez/mwverlaufgraph/spieler_53360.html


    Obviously these figures are big guesses and there are a lot more factors to take into account, but it gives you an idea of what the expert valuations are for Rhodes compared to Rodriguez. Ultimately, I think it's clear that a fee in the region of £8m for Rhodes will be a fair price. Likewise, for Rodriguez, a fair price (given that he is a division higher) will probably be around £5m
     
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  13. andiwilltellyouanotherthing

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    what a f***** tease...
     
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  14. YellowLittle

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    Interesting the Ryan Bennet was valued on that website as 3.1 million in January whilst at Peterborough.

    Pilks is now worth 3.1 million too now.
     
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  15. BillyNCFC

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    Southampton just had £7m bid for Jay Rod accepted.... Wonder what budget we'll have if Southampton can splash £7m on one player
     
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  16. goldeneadie

    goldeneadie Well-Known Member

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    very interesting reading through the supposed values, but mostly they seem realistic. chris martin at £450,000 for instance.
     
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  17. goldeneadie

    goldeneadie Well-Known Member

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    just looked at some other prices- snodgrass £1.8M, naughton £3.1M, bridcutt £450,000, gunter £1.8M. seems they value premier players higher than championship automatically. also holt £2.6M. he scored a goal every 146 minutes on the pitch this season according to the stats, better than one every two games.
     
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  18. Superman wears Grant Holt pyjamas in bed

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    i've heard a decent sounding rumour this morning - lee peltier from leicester city. right back, ex team mate and best mate of anthony pilkington. no fee mentioned but sounds realistic to me. others interested but city 'apparently' leading the chase. so as usual, if true, its one which has stayed under the radar!
     
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  19. I_Clean_holtys_boots

    I_Clean_holtys_boots Active Member

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    He's a decent RB that's for sure! The only thing is, as he plays for Leicester i imagine he could be on a fair whack already.
     
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  20. I_Clean_holtys_boots

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    The only thing is, Pearson has deemed him surplus to requirements and wants to get rid. 500k they reckon and feeds utd are supposedly interested aswell.
     
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