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  1. deedub93

    deedub93 Well-Known Member

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    And if we had had that cheating horrible bastard Suarez would Kane have got his opportunity? Possibly but possibly stuck on the bench and then deciding to move on. The grass is always greener on the other side, or in your case dona, the grass is always stronger in the other spliff. I remember being happy that we qualified for the Ropey Cup.
     
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  2. Roo

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    <laugh>
     
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  3. KingHotspur

    KingHotspur Well-Known Member

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    How do we not need much improvement, as good as our current players are, they haven't won anything yet, so for me theres plenty of room for improvement.

    Also we need players that will improve the team, not just backup/cover players.
     
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  4. Spurm

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    We need first team improvement and squad depth.
    The issue is always money though.
    We can't pay enough to keep really good players happy on our bench.
    Players that improve our first XI are few and far between and demand top dollar and can have their pick of clubs.

    I'm against the scrimping of £1m on a Suarez-type transfer (to use the already mentioned example) but i wouldn't be against coming out this window without any signings AS LONG as it wasn't due to some silly reason.

    For example, if Villa want £25m for Grealish and we only want to pay £22m then just pony up the £3m. That is still a good price nowadays for a home grown player like him considering his age.
     
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  5. Spurm

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    My feeling is that they really set their sights on Martial this summer. That is the big one they wanted/want. The only day that is ever going to happen is on deadline day as neither club want to "sell to a rival" despite expecting the other to do exactly that
     
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  6. Spurm

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    I also think that if we get Zaha then Toby stays. Or at least goes abroad.
     
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    It is becoming obvious that we aren't going to make all of our necessary improvements in one window. Of course we need lots of improvement to do a Man City, even though even they didn't win every competition they entered last season.

    What I'm saying is that in order for me to feel like the club are serious about moving forward, not much has to be improved 'in this window'.

    No changes and I think we are on the foolish side of brave. With just a few signings I can see us making steady improvements over a few windows to get us where we need to be.

    Of course I'd like to add Bale and Perisic to that list, and another CM, but you can't always have what you want can you?

    We seem to be stuck in a position where we can't really afford players that are that much better than what we have. In that position, I think it is best to make sure we have cover/backup players that are well drilled. Hence Rose/Davies Trippier/Walker etc. It's nothing that we haven't seen Poch do, he just needs to do it in all positions on the pitch.

    We can challenge like that until we can get bigger guns.
     
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  8. Spurm

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    I also think that all the signings people are talking about us making are with regards to us challenging for the prem and even more ultimately the CL.
    We COULD win a cup or 2 now. We should be winning cups. It angers me when we don't take them seriously, because we're not good enough to win the prem or CL at the moment

    The only team i wouldn't be confident of beating in a one-off 90 mins is City, and even then it wouldn't be a massive surprise if we did it
     
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  9. Roo

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    I think my main frustration with the transfer window nowadays is the realisation that we have an exceptional coach who we are lucky to have, and a system demanding so much from the players in it, New players need months to learn it. Signing players so late, means it’s likely we will see more “Lucas Moura’s” who will barely feature for months and probably won’t come to fruition until December or January.
    CM is a position we’re in desperate need to strengthen. If we’d got someone in very early to learn the system, and it was just the extra squad players we were hanging on till the end of the window for, i don’t think it’d seem anywhere near as frustrating.
     
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  10. PowerSpurs

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    The problem with winning cups is that even after our improvement we usually have to beat two or three teams who are at about the same standard as us. So nothing is guaranteed. We’ve had a good go at the FA Cup but come up against better teams in the most recent semi finals. We simply can’t afford to play our best players in the early rounds of the other Cup.
     
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  11. Spurm

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    I don't agree that either were better.
    We went into the Chelsea semi THE form team in the country. Poch changed up the formation, doing some crazy **** like playing Sonny as left wing-back. We were conquering all before us at the time and should have just continued with what we were doing and rolled Chelsea out the way too.

    The opening of the Utd semi showed we could and should have had them. We should have been out of sight. Then Maureen out-coached Poch imo and turned it around for them. They didn't outplay us, but they out-smarted us for sure.

    Might be controversial, but i lay both of those defeats solely at Poch's door.
     
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    I don’t agree but it certainly wasn’t down to Levy....
     
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  13. humanbeingincroydon

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    I don't, not with Martin Twatkinson going out of his way to guarantee a Chelsea victory that afternoon.
     
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  14. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    Is he standing still or biding his time though? No one will really know the answer to that until once the deadline shuts but I'm personally happy to give him the benefit of the doubt.

    Pool do spend quite a bit of money in windows, it's just this one's been inflated partly because they were desperate (for a GK) and partly because they have the money to do so. We have money too don't get me wrong but we can't just forget about the stadium that needs paying for.

    FWIW, I can see us spending big before the end of the window on one or two, maybe three players and I think all of them will get Spurs fans pretty excited. We just need to be (a bit more) patient lol.
     
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  15. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    What's gotta be remembered with Moura is that he was massively unfit when he joined us. He played something like 55 mins for the whole first half of the season at PSG, not forgetting he was also coming to a new league.

    If we sign for example Martial/ Zaha/ Grealish, they'll go straight into the squad and arguably the XI for Newcastle seeing as many others will have only just returned from WC breaks or some still out through injury. A lot will depend on where we sign players from, domestic ones like the three I mentioned won't need much bedding in, foreign ones may need a bit more time but as long as they're currently getting pre-season minutes with their respective clubs, they won't need as much time as Moura did.
     
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  16. humanbeingincroydon

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    Here's the thing about the Redknapp era people tend to forget: we lined up with a big man/little man combo up front, most notably the Crouch/VDV pairing in 2009/10, which all too often degenerated into the ball being aimed long to Crouch to knock down for VDV to tap in during the 2009/10 season. So if we did sign Suarez, not only would we have wasted him by making him lurk in the penalty area for a Crouch/Adebayor knock-down, but it also begs the question where VDV would have gone - his next best position was through the middle but there was no way we'd have dropped Modric, so he'd have either been shunted out to the right wing as that was the only real place in midfield he could've gone, dropped to the bench, or potentially been moved on.
     
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  17. remembercolinlee

    remembercolinlee Well-Known Member

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    agreed but your dates are slightly out...09/10 was Crouch and Defoe and 10/11 was Crouch and VDV
     
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  18. Should anything be read into this.....??
    Not at Spurs Lodge
    Not in Spurs training kit
    No mention of the club either formal or informal

    Could all be coincidental and that he's back next week with Harry and the other WC squad..... Hopefully!

     
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  19. PleaseNotPoll

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    Isn't he still on holiday with his pregnant missus, wherever he posted this from yesterday?
     
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  20. BobbyD

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    Nothing to agree about.

    People are advocating it was the right decision not to sign one of the best strikers in the world (especially from 2013 onwards)
     
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